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[2cat]

Watching my broker attend that fucking party while there's a caravan waiting is incredibly irritating.

[Borgle]

You can undesignate then redesignate the statue/table to stop the party.
Or just don't make them rooms.

[2cat]

Noted, thanks. Looks like I need a new broker though anyway, mine got a strange mood right after the party ended.

[Yellow]

Noted, thanks. Looks like I need a new broker though anyway, mine got a strange mood right after the party ended.

Urist Broker cancels Trade: Shitfaced

[Folly]

I really wish doctor duties were a higher priority.
When I've got a dwarf with severed guts slowly filling my hospital with vomit, I don't like seeing 3 doctors partying, 2 doctors sleeping, 2 doctors hauling goods, and 3 doctors idle.

[random51]

Instead of putting meeting room on your dining rooms, leave it off and then put a meeting zone on top of the dining room.  No more parties. You can do the same thing with statue gardens.

...and if you don't want your doctors to do anything besides doctoring isn't the obvious answer to not assign them any other jobs?

If I had doctors and wounded, the first thing I'd do would be remove all jobs other than doctoring from my doctoring-capable dwarves.

Same thing I do for any job that I need done quickly.  My one planter/grower?  Has no other jobs.  My bookkeeper?  Bookkeeping and hauling only. My miners? Just mining.  My master mason? Just masonry.

You want specialist dwarves for most skills as the better they get at it the faster they perform and the better items they produce.  This means 1 or 2 dwarves only per most of the skills. Let everybody who isn't already on the way to legendary be haulers.

Basically, my first wave of dwarves become 7 specialists as soon as I get my first real wave of immigrants.  Second wave comes in I start choosing dwarves for the less important skills, while still keeping anywhere from 20-60% of the fortress as dedicated haulers/engravers.  Lots of stuff to move the first few years, lots of stone to engrave.

[Mir]

It's still damn annoying to have to totally reorganize your traders skills just to get him to go trade.

Even in a fort of 200 dwarves, it would seem silly to me to have a single dwarf dedicated to absolutely nothing but trading year round. He'd be idle most of the time. Besides, even then, it seems like he has to eat and drink himself to bursting, and then take a twelve day nap before he trades almost every time, too.

It would be oh-so-nice to have the ability to change relative job priorities. I actually imagine this could be an extremely valuable ability should it ever be added to the game. Complicated, maybe, but valuable.

[dakenho]

even at that doctors and recover wounded is a very slow task, for some reason dwarfs only want to recover one wounded at a time, I had a goblin raid and had to lock every one in a work shop while my military made short work of goblins, by the time they got from the work shop to the dwarf...and by the time my medical dwarfs actually look at some one, idk it just seems if some one is bleeding to death your first response would not be to drag the bucket 100+ tiles to the river you know

[culwin]

I really wish doctor duties were a higher priority.
When I've got a dwarf with severed guts slowly filling my hospital with vomit, I don't like seeing 3 doctors partying, 2 doctors sleeping, 2 doctors hauling goods, and 3 doctors idle.

That's just reflecting the realistic healthcare system.
Human doctors go golfing, dwarf doctors party.

[o_O[WTFace]]

Sorry Urist, your insurance only covers melee weapon injuries while you clearly have arrow injuries.  That will be 5000 for the assessment please...

Anyway, in my experience they only haul injured when they a) get thirsty or hungry or b) the injured get up and haul themself to the hospital.  I guess it could just be that it takes so long that the injured inevitably end up thirsty or partially healed on their own though. 

I have one dwarf do all management sort of jobs and nothing else.  Sometimes I have to remove him from the arsenal dwarf position temporarily when traders arrive but usually the trading does get done. 

[Astramancer]

It's still damn annoying to have to totally reorganize your traders skills just to get him to go trade.

Even in a fort of 200 dwarves, it would seem silly to me to have a single dwarf dedicated to absolutely nothing but trading year round. He'd be idle most of the time. Besides, even then, it seems like he has to eat and drink himself to bursting, and then take a twelve day nap before he trades almost every time, too.

It would be oh-so-nice to have the ability to change relative job priorities. I actually imagine this could be an extremely valuable ability should it ever be added to the game. Complicated, maybe, but valuable.

Part of the reason why your trader always eats and drinks to bursting and then sleeps for a month is because those tasks are lower priority than working (up to a certain point) but higher priority than trading.  Meaning that when your trader is hauling, he gets hungry, thirsty, and tired, but not enough to stop working.  Then you suddenly remove all his other jobs (except the ultra-low priority trading) and now he's got free time so he can take care of those other needs, hence the eating, the drinking, and the month-long nap.  Once he's done with all of that he can go trade.

The solution, then is to take him off those other jobs early, or, after you have more than a dozen dwarves so no individual dwarf really is critical to survival (and the crafting of trade goods, just take off all his other jobs permanently.  It's not as silly as it sounds to have a full-time trader that doesn't do anything else.  For one, you never miss a caravan due to marathon napping, and for another, he can build all all his social skills because he's always chatting it up in the dining hall, so he becomes mayor, who only real job is talking to people with problems - so he's more effective without other jobs anyway.

In anything remotely resembling a mature fort, my biggest problems are always finding enough jobs to keep my idlers under 3 anyway, so having an intentional idler has never affected me much.  If you really want to, just assign him to a job that only comes up occasionally.

[Grendus]

You could simply allow all dwarves to trade. In a mature fortress, you'll easily outproduce the caravans in raw trade goods and will probably find yourself throwing money at the traders to increase the amounts of the few goods you're missing. No need for an accurate value comparison if you want to load down their wagon with high quality processed goods anyways.

[BurnedToast]

You could simply allow all dwarves to trade. In a mature fortress, you'll easily outproduce the caravans in raw trade goods and will probably find yourself throwing money at the traders to increase the amounts of the few goods you're missing. No need for an accurate value comparison if you want to load down their wagon with high quality processed goods anyways.

Plus even a starting caravan will get a dwarf high enough skill to see prices from no skill anyway, and the later caravans (or bugged elf ones though I think those might be fixed) can get them a surprisingly high appraiser skill in one shot.

Really there is no downside to just letting the nearest dwarf do it. I'm not even really sure any of the trading skills actually do anything at all right now, and even if they do it's irrelevant because of the huge excess of goods you can easily produce.

[UmbrageOfSnow]

I usually just have my trader be a stonecrafter with all hauling and anything else turned off.  When it comes time to trade, I just go to the workshops and cancel the jobs.  He gets at least some of his drinking and whatnot done while they're unloading goods.

The again, I've missed a few as well.  I actually like the dedicated trader idea, I may try that sometime.

[Psieye]

The only reason I care about having my broker do the trading is because of the Judge of Intent skill. At least when starting out, it's nice to know when the merchant's mood is ecstatic so I can start calling for smaller profit margins. Personally I've never missed a caravan - I give the "trader wanted" order as soon as the merchants spawn on the map, disable all his other labours and by the time the merchants finish unpacking he's done his eat/drink/sleep routine. Heck, if he's waiting for the merchants to finish unloading I pause the game and do a bunch of mouse-dragging with the designate menu to get them to insta-unload. Of course, I try to have my broker do some easily stoppable job so I don't have any regrets turning his labours off.