Once again, you blindly misinterpret my arguments to make yours seem plausible.
I don't know who you think I am. I have never responded to you before.
Stop getting so defensive, dude. I don't hate you, and I'm not going to eat your child.
I was arguing about programs that alter the OS for advanced features. Example, that exact debugger you were claiming was so great.
Blacken was not stating that the MSVC debugger is superior for installing to Program Files. Its integration with the OS is minimal at best. He wrote that the debugger is easier to use considering it's integrated with Visual Studio. And that's a fairly common sentiment. But considering I use Ollydbg regularly (and GDB every so often) I have no strong feelings about this. GDB even (loosely) integrates with Code::Blocks and Eclipse (with CDT? - IIRC) if you prefer that sort of thing.
First, it either must already be running, or it must be started when any program crashes, consuming RAM. Considering current trends care more for startup time, advanced features, and disregard excessive RAM usage, it likely starts when windows does.
I don't know where you got these misconceptions. MSVC does
not run at boot and no part of it does so. It isn't integrated in the way a video driver or service is.
Additionally, the extra code to allow it to integrate with the OS does *not*, under *any* circumstance, make the program *smaller*.
It does no such thing.
Copying a folder *IS* in fact, easier than clicking setup.msi, especially when setup.msi includes options and an EULA. XCOPY, in case you don't know, is the version of the old copy command that is able to copy folders. That is why it is called XCOPY deployment, because it can be "installed" by copying a folder, not by copying each single file.
Thanks for the unnecessary briefer on
xcopy. I don't know anyone who would rather copy 2,000 files to a local folder than globally install an MSI or DEB/RPM/APP. An MSI is actually more useful for proprietary products, because (1) it can easily coordinate domain installs across thousands of machines (but so can package management), and (2) blindly copying these files between machines is infringement. MSVC is
heavily protected, and Microsoft actively defends against MSVC binary distribution from both corporations and consumers; even sharing the DLLs or minor tools (remember Spy++?) is prohibited. But if you prefer copying a 6GB application to the user folder, that's your choice. It's your right and I don't take issue with it.
Summary: I was talking about programs that integrate themselves into the OS, since you can't seem to comprehend that not everyone uses your specialy downgraded version of windows 3.1 that was designed specifically so that anyone with your lack of brainpower can't manage to damage anything.
I am sorry. Maybe you can elucidate your arguments a bit more next time. It seems you misinterpreted Blacken and failed to accurately posit your position, because it took me 10 minutes just to understand what you were trying to argue.
Why do I take the trouble? Because I rarely dislike people, yet you somehow trigger something within me. With reluctance, I will continue my ignoring to keep this from escalating until I find out what it is that bothers me so much about you.
I apologize to Blacken for preempting him, but if House ever made a keen observation, it was that being right counts for more than being polite. The best person will be both. But dealing with sarcasm, ridicule, and assholes is an everyday occurance in the technical and academic fields. The adept shut their mouth, learn from their mistakes, and move on, hopefully to not make the same mistake twice. It takes patience and strength not to respond in kind, and not to begrudge the one doing the berating. Professors do this daily, but are respected nonetheless.
I see all form of commentary in a non-technical or educational forum as vain in nature, including my own comments, so perhaps I am simply not surprised at this behavior.