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[WormSlayer]

Oh. Also, I love that water. How would you like to be able to animate it?

Are you teasing us with some sort of animated png support? :F

If you can make water animate in a way that logically shows flow direction, my brain will liquify.

If we switch over to using the "number for water" thing with tiles it looks really, really nice in places where the water level is changing. The downside is that rivers lose the nice flowing colour animation along their length.

[Cruxador]

Oh. Also, I love that water. How would you like to be able to animate it?

If you can make water animate in a way that logically shows flow direction, my brain will liquify.

Man, water doesn't even do that in real life most of the time.

[Cheddarius]

Man, water doesn't even do that in real life most of the time.

Neither does water come with gigantic marks saying "7" and "6" and such; however, it is included. It's not reality that matters, it's making the game enjoyable.

That being said, I don't think it's possible for a graphics set to show flow direction. That would require a change in the game itself, not just the graphics.

[Urist McFail]

showing flow could be done using wavey lines, as Ironhand has done, with small little arrow heads.

Of course, the coding would need to be there initially to indicate which direction water is flowing for each tile, either that or just some kind of pointer in the code, like a compass cardinal point that indicates the source direction of water, and for spreading water like that in new channels or pumped across a dry floor, it would need to inherit the parent tiles direction and compare it to the direction it is moving and change as relevant.

But yeah, just by creating the tiles will not accurately show flow unless it is coded into the game.

[Wavecutter]

I go away for a few days and return to mega awesome. Keep up the good work.

[McBeer]

Nonedit: Yep, I'm also altering the text-sizing functions, so a proportional font means you get more text into the same horizontal space, not more blank space to the right.

Hello, narrow FONTS! Oh Armok, i can hardly WAIT.

[Ironhand]

I'm going to have to stress again that this code will not work properly in the next version.

Well, then what are you doing lazing around here? Hop to it! 

Oh. Also, I love that water. How would you like to be able to animate it?

Nah. I'd rather have more tile separations.
The big problem ones for me are ~, ≈, and X.

[Vince]

I'd LOVE to have animated tiles/creature graphics in general!
Two-step animated dwarves would be hilarious to watch, especially when paused and forwarding time only with the . key (like I do in battles sometimes).
And you could make gems sparkle a bit. Or an animated fly-swarm. Or...

[Zoal]

Animated tiles can be implemented so that the artist only has to use one single tile entry. You would not have to "use up" N tiles to make something which is animated.

Because the actual rendering is not the problem. The problem is that Toady is only providing enough information to specify "index 114". What the renderer chooses to do with that index is another story. It could cycle through four frames representing "index 114". The tileset could even be four .pngs, one for each frame.

Of course, that index could be ambiguous, like in the case of the spiderweb/currency tile. And you could not use this ability to cheat and get more actual unique tile entries, cause we're still stuck with the original tileset index #'s coming from Toady.

I just mean to say: There could be a shimmering animated coin, but it would have to be a shimmering/animated web as well.

-z

[Solace]

If you had an animated image, and could get it to stop on whatever image you'd prefer, that would get you the option to choose between different images in a list. Probably won't be possible, but then again we haven't seen how it works yet.

[keda]

Nonedit: Yep, I'm also altering the text-sizing functions, so a proportional font means you get more text into the same horizontal space, not more blank space to the right.

wow... Does this mean the 80 tile lower bound can be trashed too so we can make bigger tiles without needing huge screens?

[ChickenLips]

Been busy for a week or so, and have only just now gotten the chance to really take a look at 0.47 -- looking awesome!  I like the water a lot too.  I'm just amazed at what you guys have done.

Speaking specifically about the bushel, it's great, appropriate and fills in a very needed gap, but I have a wee complaint: I really liked that little low, squat plant thing it replaced (161), and found it extraordinarily useful for representing a variety of plants.  Is there any way to either put it back in, either as a different tile number, or as 161 with the basket moved to a different tile number?

Not sure why I have such a basket-like mental image...

Such a useful tile though - Could be a bushel of pretty much anything with the right colours

Like Dimple Cups or Plump Helmets?

[Ironhand]

Yeah, I want to put something like that back in.
I liked the concept, but it wasn't very good.

So I'll make you a better one!
Unless WormSlayer beats me to it.

[Baughn]

Nonedit: Yep, I'm also altering the text-sizing functions, so a proportional font means you get more text into the same horizontal space, not more blank space to the right.

wow... Does this mean the 80 tile lower bound can be trashed too so we can make bigger tiles without needing huge screens?

Not just yet. It's something Toady has shown a little interest in doing (though not in quite those words), but I very much doubt it'll happen anytime soon. Eventually, though.

[WormSlayer]

Yeah, I want to put something like that back in.
I liked the concept, but it wasn't very good.

So I'll make you a better one!
Unless WormSlayer beats me to it.

More/shinier plants are up on my list of stuff to do but I've been a bit side-tracked with boring real-world stuff like work