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[LucasUP]

nah I'm done. Was supposed to get the idea of what it might look like across. Then I got a bit silly.

[WormSlayer]

I was about to suggest you test-drive the tilesheet I'm working on in anticipation of the great day

Speaking of which, I just spent way too long making new versions of the rough ground tiles and tweaking almost every single tile. Everything has outlines now, even totally remade a couple of things - Check it out and let me know what you think:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

(Also some coffins and other things that wont show up until font-day!)

[HeliumFreak]

I hate to rain on the lovely water tiles parade. But i really dont like how the water tile looks against solid ground Sorry I think it maybe because of the contrast. Maybe try lowering the "ripple" intensity or i dunno. Not sure how to fix it. Maybe make it so its harder to notice

*Edited to actually add some constructive criticism as apposed to criticism

[pugi]

I think the ground tiles should be brightened up a bit, looks fine otherwise

[Vince]

I Love the new tiles, WormSlayer, and agree to HeliumFreak.
And Baughn, if you've got the absolute tiles:

Would it be possible to have tile transitions or at least "surrounding aware"-tiles?

Like discussed here:
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=43260.3630

[Prastary]

Speaking of which, I just spent way too long making new versions of the rough ground tiles and tweaking almost every single tile. Everything has outlines now, even totally remade a couple of things - Check it out and let me know what you think:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

(Also some coffins and other things that wont show up until font-day!)

The skull looks silly, like some talking head from Planescape Torment. The ground tiles are ugly blurry, I miss the original rough ground tiles. The coffins are super ugly, like cut from paper.

And there is still this ugly toy-crown in the tileset.

[Harmonica]

The skull always makes me think of Monkey Island, but yeah Planescape works too

I'm not sure if your outlines might have broken some of the tiling WormSlayer. Also I can't really tell what is and isn't outlined but overall the effect to me is that it looks a bit cartoony. Although some things might look better with a bit more pop.

[Jiri Petru]

Yeah, the scull is very Planescapey 

[Baughn]

I Love the new tiles, WormSlayer, and agree to HeliumFreak.
And Baughn, if you've got the absolute tiles:

Would it be possible to have tile transitions or at least "surrounding aware"-tiles?

Like discussed here:
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=43260.3630

I don't even need absolute tiles for that. Sure, why the heck not?

[Vince]

I don't even need absolute tiles for that. Sure, why the heck not?

Oh god, I am so thrilled for that!
This will improve the graphics MASSIVELY. (Especially with my dwarves stomping grass to dirt in mere seconds, dirt/sand EVERYWHERE)

[Foamy]

Would that mean that walls could be thinned with open space on their tile showing the same colour as the surroundings while still becoming solid if they were part of a larger construction?

Also would it be possible to give murky water a different colour to regular water?

[Ironhand]

Sure, why the heck not?

DUDE!!! EXCITED!!!

The skull looks silly, like some talking head from Planescape Torment. The ground tiles are ugly blurry, I miss the original rough ground tiles. The coffins are super ugly, like cut from paper.
And there is still this ugly toy-crown in the tileset.

Hey, stop abusing WormSlayer. That's my job.

And anyway, do you really dislike the new ground?
...because I think it's SPECTACULAR!
It makes everything show up so much better!
And rough walls are so well-distinguished against it!
Unless you guys have some compelling arguments otherwise, I'm a fan.

The only thing they aren't great about is tile edges (they show up more).
But those squares will go away once we get our surrounding-aware tiles!

As for the skulls and the crown and the coffins, though, I kinda agree.

[WormSlayer]

The skull looks silly, like some talking head from Planescape Torment. The ground tiles are ugly blurry, I miss the original rough ground tiles. The coffins are super ugly, like cut from paper.

And there is still this ugly toy-crown in the tileset.

My new #1 fan? Love you too man!

I think the ground tiles should be brightened up a bit, looks fine otherwise

They should be about the same relative brightness as before, but now they dont have as much contrast. Should help foreground objects stand out a bit more. The tiling is also still pretty seamless, look at this shot where the red mushrooms match the colour of the ground tile:

I don't even need absolute tiles for that. Sure, why the heck not?

Now that would be a sweet new feature!

[Ironhand]

Don't worry, Wormy. Some of us still love you.



Actually, Baughn, if I could ask for one thing, ever, you know what it would be?

It would be separate backgrounds, with objects overlaid on top of them.



...but surrounding-friendly tiles would be very cool, too.

[WormSlayer]

separate backgrounds, with objects overlaid on top of them.

The problem with this is that we already use the alpha channel for background colours. Could maybe use a second tile sheet for transparency?

Or if Baughn wants to totally remake how it works; One tile sheet for background coloured bits and another one for foreground coloured bits, both with a proper alpha channel for blending with ground tiles.

Also thinking back to Baughn's mention of fixing up the shader support - Animated perlin noise or something on fluid tiles may be nice?