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shadow_slicer

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Re: Reaction Tutorial/Information
« Reply #90 on: April 16, 2010, 09:47:48 am »

Remove the [USE_MATERIAL] line from the reaction.
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Re: Reaction Tutorial/Information
« Reply #91 on: April 16, 2010, 09:49:05 am »

[REACTION:MAKE_SAUSAGE]
   [NAME:make sausage]
   [BUILDING:GRINDER:CUSTOM_S]
   [REAGENT:A:1:MEAT:NONE:NONE:NONE][HAS_MATERIAL_REACTION_PRODUCT:SAUSAGE_MAT][UNROTTEN]
   [REAGENT:B:1:MEAT:NONE:NONE:NONE][REACTION_CLASS:INTESTINE][UNROTTEN]
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:SAUSAGE:SAUSAGE_TEMPLATE]
   [PRODUCT:100:1:MEAT:SAUSAGE:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:A:SAUSAGE_MAT]
   [SKILL:BUTCHER]
   [AUTOMATIC]

the problem is probably this, no other reaction in reaction_other has it...what made you put it in there?

ed: ninj'd
also, try to schedule the task in the manager to see if its still completed
« Last Edit: April 16, 2010, 09:51:10 am by Askot Bokbondeler »
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Re: Reaction Tutorial/Information
« Reply #92 on: April 16, 2010, 10:49:05 am »

ok i have a probleme here, i wanted to test if new version let work this:

[REACTION:MAKE_PLASTER_POWDER]
   [NAME:make a dog]
   [BUILDING:KILN:CUSTOM_SHIFT_P]
   [PRODUCT:100:1:DOG]
   [SKILL:SMELT]

but it seems to not be possible even now ... so someone has found how to "smellt" animals? i tougth it should be alredy corrected (in 40d only vermins could be smelted)
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Re: Reaction Tutorial/Information
« Reply #93 on: April 16, 2010, 10:54:58 am »

ok i have a probleme here, i wanted to test if new version let work this:

[REACTION:MAKE_PLASTER_POWDER]
   [NAME:make a dog]
   [BUILDING:KILN:CUSTOM_SHIFT_P]
   [PRODUCT:100:1:DOG]
   [SKILL:SMELT]

but it seems to not be possible even now ... so someone has found how to "smellt" animals? i tougth it should be alredy corrected (in 40d only vermins could be smelted)

Vermin can still be smelted, and large animals still cannot be smelted.
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« Reply #94 on: April 16, 2010, 11:01:28 am »

ok i have a probleme here, i wanted to test if new version let work this:

[REACTION:MAKE_PLASTER_POWDER]
   [NAME:make a dog]
   [BUILDING:KILN:CUSTOM_SHIFT_P]
   [PRODUCT:100:1:DOG]
   [SKILL:SMELT]

but it seems to not be possible even now ... so someone has found how to "smellt" animals? i tougth it should be alredy corrected (in 40d only vermins could be smelted)

Vermin can still be smelted, and large animals still cannot be smelted.

so it still havn't been corrected :( that is where my golem factory ends for now ... but one day i'll have them ... yesss i will
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Re: Reaction Tutorial/Information
« Reply #95 on: April 16, 2010, 11:36:08 am »

[REACTION:MAKE_SAUSAGE]
   [NAME:make sausage]
   [BUILDING:GRINDER:CUSTOM_S]
   [REAGENT:A:1:MEAT:NONE:NONE:NONE][HAS_MATERIAL_REACTION_PRODUCT:SAUSAGE_MAT][UNROTTEN]
   [REAGENT:B:1:MEAT:NONE:NONE:NONE][REACTION_CLASS:INTESTINE][UNROTTEN]
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:SAUSAGE:SAUSAGE_TEMPLATE]
   [PRODUCT:100:1:MEAT:SAUSAGE:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:A:SAUSAGE_MAT]
   [SKILL:BUTCHER]
   [AUTOMATIC]

the problem is probably this, no other reaction in reaction_other has it...what made you put it in there?

ed: ninj'd
also, try to schedule the task in the manager to see if its still completed

Excellent, it works. Just removed that line, and changed the product to MEAT:NONE instead of MEAT:SAUSAGE. I think I was confused/concerned about how the sausage was declared, seeing that the tanning reaction used SKIN_TANNED, a token I couldn't find anywhere but reaction_other... But in any case, it looks like the whole MATERIAL_REACTION_PRODUCT thing takes care of it.

I'm still confused as to why it worked before, when I still had the USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE line in there... Strangeness indeed.
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Re: Reaction Tutorial/Information
« Reply #96 on: April 16, 2010, 12:53:47 pm »

ok i have a probleme here, i wanted to test if new version let work this:

[REACTION:MAKE_PLASTER_POWDER]
   [NAME:make a dog]
   [BUILDING:KILN:CUSTOM_SHIFT_P]
   [PRODUCT:100:1:DOG]
   [SKILL:SMELT]

but it seems to not be possible even now ... so someone has found how to "smellt" animals? i tougth it should be alredy corrected (in 40d only vermins could be smelted)

Vermin can still be smelted, and large animals still cannot be smelted.

so it still havn't been corrected :( that is where my golem factory ends for now ... but one day i'll have them ... yesss i will

but is it possible the other way around? like for example a "shear sheep" reaction? :x
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Re: Reaction Tutorial/Information
« Reply #97 on: April 16, 2010, 02:00:53 pm »

One thing confusing me when it comes to reactions is that in this topic people are using:
Code: [Select]
[REAGENT:A:1:MEAT:NONE:NONE:NONE]instead of:
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[REAGENT:A:1:MEAT:NO_SUBTYPE:NONE:NONE]
Does it not make any difference?
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Re: Reaction Tutorial/Information
« Reply #98 on: April 16, 2010, 03:43:57 pm »

NO_SUBTYPE is a subclass of NONE derived for the subtype parameter. (in English: they mean the same thing, but NO_SUBTYPE is more specific)
It's actually easier to just use NONE.
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Re: Reaction Tutorial/Information
« Reply #99 on: April 16, 2010, 05:33:56 pm »

That makes sense, I had figured it was like that but thought it best to ask. Cheers.
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Re: Reaction Tutorial/Information
« Reply #100 on: April 20, 2010, 09:56:25 pm »

Silly people.

[HAS_MATERIAL_REACTION:X]

Is a tag on a template that relates to...
[MATERIAL_REACTION_PRODUCT:X:Y:Z]

Where...
X - Refers to a 'new' material reaction type.
Y:Z - Refers to MATGLOSS:MATGLOSS_SUBTYPE
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Re: Reaction Tutorial/Information
« Reply #101 on: April 21, 2010, 02:51:56 am »

Silly people.

[HAS_MATERIAL_REACTION:X]

Is a tag on a template that relates to...
[MATERIAL_REACTION_PRODUCT:X:Y:Z]

Where...
X - Refers to a 'new' material reaction type.
Y:Z - Refers to MATGLOSS:MATGLOSS_SUBTYPE

Who exactly are you talking to? I got this to work just fine. My dwarves are up to their ears in ground cat meat, cat sausage, and building materials made from cat flesh.
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