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[soyweiser]

Lol, bargests can ride cave crocs into battle. Bargests do not swim cave crocks do. The crocks path through water, drowing the riders.

Of course, less LOL is that this was their commander and I now have a large group of bargest archers on a large hill overlooking my entrance.

[SirAaronIII]

The whole "invaders who don't swim riding animals that do swim like cave crocs and giant toads" thing is a vanilla bug. So I don't think it's really possible to fix it.

[soyweiser]

You can tame a jabberer, who then still tries to kill everybody...

[Garbles]

Yeah it kinda sucks that you can't hotwire goblin rides.

First year in Irongorge was pretty quiet, with only vanilla roaming creatures. In the middle of winter I had a harmless but jarring invasion of mosswines, who were the advance wave for baggis, who killed all my ferrets. Next spring I got sieged by goblins. Now in summer I just broke the beak dog siege, only to be ambushed by goblins again. I have a feeling I'm going to have more corpses than I know what to do with.

EDIT: Two gravioses wandered into the fort (!!!) and decided to camp out in the (currently empty) barracks. I hadn't finished WTFing before a frost wyrm showed up. This might be bad.

[SirAaronIII]

2 gravioses? I have a feeling we're not using the same MHU pack. I'm using the Normal Mode pack because I am too wimpy to deal with Hard Mode.

[Torgan]

You can tame a jabberer, who then still tries to kill everybody...

I tried that with a voracious cave crawler that was previously used as a mount for a goblin, Tomi said there's no point taming them as they remain hostile. 

I think it's always been an issue that if you tame a creature that's killed one of your dwarfs he'll still be hostile after being tamed.

[Garbles]

2 gravioses? I have a feeling we're not using the same MHU pack. I'm using the Normal Mode pack because I am too wimpy to deal with Hard Mode.

Yeah, I installed the hard modes of MHU and FD, because, why not? Fortunately they stayed in the barracks breaking all the stone furniture long enough for my two militiatauri to finish getting sutured in the hospital. The white one got decapitated on his way to the dining room, but the black one lasered them both. Fortunately he was passing out from pain, and an unarmed engraver was able to gore it to death. I started to think that perhaps giving playable races gore attacks removed too much !!fun!!, but then a moody minotaur I had forgotten about went insane and killed four of his friends.

You can tame a jabberer, who then still tries to kill everybody...

I tried that with a voracious cave crawler that was previously used as a mount for a goblin, Tomi said there's no point taming them as they remain hostile. 

I think it's always been an issue that if you tame a creature that's killed one of your dwarfs he'll still be hostile after being tamed.

I think the problem is that they are still members of the enemy civilization. Usually when I capture mounts it's because I let them get inside to keep their archer riders from being effective, so they haven't even seen anyone from my fort till they get dragged to the cage pile.

[vaderflag]

An update on the gelatinous cubes that wreaked havoc on my cavern patrollers.

They were successfully caged and (!!) tamed, and chained up topside to keep an eye out for ambushes.

After fighting over several sieges without any help from the military, my militia commander, in a fit of jealousy, had them both pitted into a pool of lava.

And there, for the last two seasons, they have remained. Alive. Burning, eternally(?). Will check back periodically to see whether they are ever consumed by the flames. Armok help the fortress if they ever find their way out.

[Garbles]

An update on the gelatinous cubes that wreaked havoc on my cavern patrollers.

They were successfully caged and (!!) tamed, and chained up topside to keep an eye out for ambushes.

After fighting over several sieges without any help from the military, my militia commander, in a fit of jealousy, had them both pitted into a pool of lava.

And there, for the last two seasons, they have remained. Alive. Burning, eternally(?). Will check back periodically to see whether they are ever consumed by the flames. Armok help the fortress if they ever find their way out.

Damn. That's a pretty harsh punishment. It sounds like one of those Greek myths where some mortal blasphemes and claims to be the best at something, only to suffer eternally at the hands of the patron god/goddess responsible for that something.

Don't let the Dwarf Mode forums find out about this if they turn out to be magma-proof, they'll throw a hissy.

[TomiTapio]

Someone might want to try a magic dwarf caste with that same 5000 thickness of skin, and toss them in the volcano. ([SELECT_TISSUE:SKIN][RELATIVE_THICKNESS:5000] is the code)


I'm researching more new trees to add... really gotta have Elm, Ebony, Sycamore! Ebony density 1.2 instead of cheap wood's 0.45. http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/wood-density-d_40.html
Need to know how elite the tree is for furniture, how dense, and what biomes approximately. I've reduced the elite trees' frequency significantly, I'd like some incentive for "separate stockpile of this area's elite hardwood for the carpenter".

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"Almond wood is reddish. The timber is highly prized for high-grade cabinetwork"
boxwood "A whitish-yellow color, without any figure. Used mainly as an inlay or for stringing lines from the sixteenth century."
elm "Elm, Ulmus Rubra, is moderately heavy, hard and stiff with excellent bending and shock resistance. density 0.68 - 0.81 "
rock elm 802 dens.
holly 750 dens "White wood type, fine-grained and nearly devoid of figureused, used for inlay and marquetry work from sixteenth century "
ebony 1200 density!
sapele 640 dens,
juniper cypress-family crap, conifer, pehmeät kävyt, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juniper
"Bloodwood (Tropical America): Also known as Cardinal Wood, the color is a deep rich red. Very heavy wood with grain that varies from straight to variable. This is a strong, hard and tough wood that is quite durable. Works fairly easily for all tooling operations - glues and stains well. Used in fine furniture and inlay work."
sycamore, 0.4-0.6 dens, "Fine, even texture, usually with straight grain. Pale brown in color." "American Plane, Buttonwood"
satinwood "Satinwood can be polished to a high gloss. Satinwood is hard, fine-grained and durable with a satinlike sheen, much used in cabinetmaking, especially in marquetry."
done crap maple
satinwood tropical "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chloroxylon
rosewood

Myrtle Burl:(Umbelluria californica). myrtle value3, "Myrtle (Nothofagus cunninghamii) belongs to the same family as the beeches of Europe. It is found in any of the wet forests across Tasmania, but most frequently in the north west and west of the State. Provided that conditions are moist and sheltered, the tree flourishes from sea level to the tree line. "
"Myrtle is a striking wood with rich red, brown, and almost orange tones. It is believed that the richness of colour varies with the soil type. The deepest red myrtle comes from the fertile and chocolate coloured soils that derive from basalt. "

yellow poplar "American tulipwood, American whitewood, Blue poplar, Canadian whitewood, Canary whitewood, Canary wood, Canoe wood, Green cypress, Hickory poplar, Poplar, Popple, Saddle tree, Saddletree, Tulip poplar, Tuliptree, Tulipwood, Virginian poplar, White poplar, Whitewood, Yellow poplar, Yellow-wood"
common, value2,  creamy to light brown.

[Thundercraft]

An update on the gelatinous cubes that wreaked havoc on my cavern patrollers.

They were successfully caged and (!!) tamed... [snip]
[snip]...in a fit of jealousy, had them both pitted into a pool of lava.

And there, for the last two seasons, they have remained. Alive. Burning, eternally(?).

To me, this clearly illustrates a case where a creature has been made so invulnerable to the point of being munchkin or ridiculously over-the-top. Blob-types are usually tough enough to kill already (no head, vunerable areas, etc.) without such thick skin.

I'm researching more new trees to add... really gotta have Elm, Ebony, Sycamore! Ebony density 1.2 instead of cheap wood's 0.45. http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/wood-density-d_40.html
Need to know how elite the tree is for furniture, how dense, and what biomes approximately.

I realize that Genesis already has Ironwood. And I'm not sure what new trees have been added recently. But have you considered adding Bodark (also known as Osage-orange, Horse-apple, and Bois D'Arc) ?

The heavy, close-grained yellow-orange wood is very dense and is prized for tool handles, treenails, fence posts, electrical insulators, and other applications requiring a strong dimensionally stable wood that withstands rot. Straight-grained osage timber (most is knotty and twisted) makes very good bows. In Arkansas, in the early 19th century, a good Osage bow was worth a horse and a blanket...

This tree grows around here and I can tell from first hand experience that it is one of the toughest natural materials on the planet! Seriously, locals here know that it would be pointless to try to use a chainsaw on a well-seasoned piece of bodark. You'd just be ruining a good chain. Farmers here often cut down bodark trees when they're still green in order to make fence posts. And these posts last for many decades. The saying goes that a bodark post will outlast your fence. The only problem is that bodark trees are naturally twisted and knotted, so getting even 1 straight fence post may not be possible.

In fact, the material is so tough that there is a company which uses bodark wood to make bearings for huge rollers - the type which is used to flatten recently plowed fields. These rollers can weight about a ton... literally. And steel bearings just wear out too fast!

[Morwaul]

For Tomi

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

[TomiTapio]

No, didn't consider Osage as I didn't encounter it on the "best woods explained" sites.
Yep, Osage-orange seems pretty tough, and 935 density is double that of regular wood. IRL it's not used for furniture due to the twisted trunks. So it won't make elite whiskey barrels for dorfs.
http://www.wood-database.com/lumber-identification/hardwoods/osage-orange/
"Osage Orange trees are a magnet for every squirrel in the neighborhood. " hehee

Thanks for the charts Morwaul, but I won't be adding per-tree armor durability numbers. Almost all of that toughness chart seems to be Goodwoods. I got three categories: vanilla DF's wood (pine, fir etc), fairwood (cypress redcedar beech), goodwood (furniture makers' favorites). I think I'll put OO in the Goodwood category but only value2, fine but not mahogany. Should make great bolts and trapcomps.

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Osage-orange, hedge apple, Bodark, bow-wood. cousin of Mulberry.
 "The heavy, close-grained yellow-orange wood is very dense and is prized for tool handles, treenails, fence posts, electrical insulators, and other applications requiring a strong dimensionally stable wood that withstands rot. Straight-grained osage timber (most is knotty and twisted) makes very good bows"
http://www.wood-database.com/lumber-identification/hardwoods/osage-orange/
935 dens, "Osage Orange has been shown in studies to produce more BTUs when burned than any other domestic hardwood, and is accordingly sometimes used as fuelwood. Other common uses include: fence posts, dye, archery bows, musical instruments, turnings, and other small specialty wood items."

[PLANT:BODARK] added by TomiTapio,
   [NAME:bodark][NAME_PLURAL:bodarks][ADJ:bodark]
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:STRUCTURAL:STRUCTURAL_PLANT_TEMPLATE]
   [BASIC_MAT:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:STRUCTURAL]
   [AUTUMNCOLOR]
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:WOOD:GOODWOOD_TEMPLATE]
      [MATERIAL_VALUE:2][VALUE:2]
      [STATE_NAME:ALL_SOLID:bodark]
      [STATE_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:bodark]
      [PREFIX:NONE]
      [SOLID_DENSITY:935] very heavy, but poor for furniture. Good for weapons I guess.
   [TREE:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:WOOD]
   [TREE_TILE:6]
   [DEAD_TREE_TILE:6]
   [PREFSTRING:twisted trunks]
   [DRY]
   [BIOME:GRASSLAND_TEMPERATE]
   [BIOME:SAVANNA_TEMPERATE]
   [BIOME:SHRUBLAND_TEMPERATE]
   [SAPLING]
   [TREE_COLOR:6:10:0]
   [DEAD_TREE_COLOR:6:4:0]
   [SAPLING_COLOR:7:0:1]
   [DEAD_SAPLING_COLOR:0:0:1]

Edit: some more additions... tree colours and tiles are whatever and ascii:

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[PLANT:BALSA] added by TomiTapio, common, white grey to creamy to light brown. evergreen/deciduous, grows with bamboo, Fir, Spruce, Pine
"highly adapted to secondary forest conditions"
rainforest, good drainage
   [NAME:balsa][NAME_PLURAL:balsas][ADJ:balsa]
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:STRUCTURAL:STRUCTURAL_PLANT_TEMPLATE]
   [BASIC_MAT:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:STRUCTURAL]
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:WOOD:WOOD_TEMPLATE]
      [MATERIAL_VALUE:2][VALUE:2]
      [STATE_NAME:ALL_SOLID:balsa]
      [STATE_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:balsa]
      [PREFIX:NONE]
      [SOLID_DENSITY:170] 0.15, 0.16
   [TREE:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:WOOD]
   [TREE_TILE:6]
   [DEAD_TREE_TILE:6]
   [PREFSTRING:light weight]
   [PREFSTRING:easy carving]
   [DRY]
   [BIOME:ANY_TROPICAL_FOREST] common
   dry tropical?
   [FREQUENCY:18]
   [SAPLING]
   [TREE_COLOR:6:10:0]
   [DEAD_TREE_COLOR:6:4:0]
   [SAPLING_COLOR:7:0:1]
   [DEAD_SAPLING_COLOR:0:0:1]

Osage-orange, hedge apple, Bodark, bow-wood. cousin of Mulberry.
"The heavy, close-grained yellow-orange wood is very dense and is prized for tool handles, treenails, fence posts, electrical insulators, and other applications requiring a strong dimensionally stable wood that withstands rot. Straight-grained osage timber (most is knotty and twisted) makes very good bows"
http://www.wood-database.com/lumber-identification/hardwoods/osage-orange/
935 dens, "Osage Orange has been shown in studies to produce more BTUs when burned than any other domestic hardwood, and is accordingly sometimes used as fuelwood. Other common uses include: fence posts, dye, archery bows, musical instruments, turnings, and other small specialty wood items."
"The extremely durable and decay resistant heartwood was used for wheel hubs, fence posts, and railroad ties. The bark could be used for leather tanning" and yellow dye.
[PLANT:BODARK] added by TomiTapio
   [NAME:bodark][NAME_PLURAL:bodarks][ADJ:bodark]
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:STRUCTURAL:STRUCTURAL_PLANT_TEMPLATE]
   [BASIC_MAT:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:STRUCTURAL]
   [AUTUMNCOLOR]
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:WOOD:GOODWOOD_TEMPLATE]
      [MATERIAL_VALUE:2][VALUE:2]
      [STATE_NAME:ALL_SOLID:bodark]
      [STATE_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:bodark]
      [PREFIX:NONE]
      [SOLID_DENSITY:935] very heavy, but poor for furniture. Good for trap components I guess.
   [TREE:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:WOOD]
   [TREE_TILE:6]
   [DEAD_TREE_TILE:6]
   [PREFSTRING:material as bows]
   [PREFSTRING:twisted trunks]
   [PREFSTRING:strong thorns]
   [PREFSTRING:long burning]
   [PREFSTRING:separation into males and females]
   [DRY]
   biome: USA's Great Plains, hmm
   [BIOME:GRASSLAND_TEMPERATE]
   [BIOME:SAVANNA_TEMPERATE]
   [BIOME:SHRUBLAND_TEMPERATE]
   [FREQUENCY:10]
   [SAPLING]
   [TREE_COLOR:6:10:0]
   [DEAD_TREE_COLOR:6:4:0]
   [SAPLING_COLOR:7:0:1]
   [DEAD_SAPLING_COLOR:0:0:1]
   
elm "Elm, Ulmus Rubra, is moderately heavy, hard and stiff with excellent bending and shock resistance." density 0.68 - 0.81
"trees in the temperate forest include maple, elm, oak, cedar"
[PLANT:ELM] added by TomiTapio
   [NAME:elm][NAME_PLURAL:elm][ADJ:elm]
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:STRUCTURAL:STRUCTURAL_PLANT_TEMPLATE]
   [BASIC_MAT:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:STRUCTURAL]
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:WOOD:GOODWOOD_TEMPLATE]
      [MATERIAL_VALUE:3][VALUE:3]
      [STATE_NAME:ALL_SOLID:elm]
      [STATE_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:elm]
      [PREFIX:NONE]
      [SOLID_DENSITY:750]
   [TREE:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:WOOD]
   [PREFSTRING:loose inflorescences]
   [DRY][WET]
   [BIOME:ANY_TEMPERATE_BROADLEAF]
   [FREQUENCY:17] --because it's goodwood
   [SAPLING]
   [TREE_TILE:5][DEAD_TREE_TILE:5][TREE_COLOR:2:0:1][DEAD_TREE_COLOR:7:0:0][SAPLING_COLOR:7:0:1][DEAD_SAPLING_COLOR:0:0:1]

holly: "White wood type, fine-grained and nearly devoid of figure, used for inlay and marquetry work from sixteenth century "
American holly: goodwood, USA, "Engraving, Fine furniture, Fixtures, Floor lamps, Furniture , Furniture components," and lots more uses
[PLANT:HOLLY] added by TomiTapio
   [NAME:holly][NAME_PLURAL:holly][ADJ:holly]
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:STRUCTURAL:STRUCTURAL_PLANT_TEMPLATE]
   [BASIC_MAT:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:STRUCTURAL]
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:WOOD:GOODWOOD_TEMPLATE]
      [MATERIAL_VALUE:3][VALUE:3]
      [STATE_NAME:ALL_SOLID:holly]
      [STATE_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:holly]
      [PREFIX:NONE]
      [SOLID_DENSITY:750]
   [TREE:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:WOOD]
   [PREFSTRING:loose inflorescences]
   [DRY][WET]
   [BIOME:ANY_TEMPERATE_BROADLEAF]
   [FREQUENCY:17] --because it's goodwood
   [SAPLING]
   [TREE_TILE:5][DEAD_TREE_TILE:5][TREE_COLOR:2:0:1][DEAD_TREE_COLOR:7:0:0][SAPLING_COLOR:7:0:1][DEAD_SAPLING_COLOR:0:0:1]

Cape holly, watertree: fairwood, "Kenya, Lesotho, Madagascar, Nigeria, South Africa, Tanzania, Zimbabwe"
evergreen, 20m high, "This is a fast-growing tree, growing nearly a meter a year in ideal conditions. It grows especially well in wet areas like beside lakes or rivers and it tolerates frost, making it suitable for colder climates."
[PLANT:WATERHOLLY] added by TomiTapio
   [NAME:waterholly][NAME_PLURAL:waterhollies][ADJ:waterholly]
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:STRUCTURAL:STRUCTURAL_PLANT_TEMPLATE]
   [BASIC_MAT:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:STRUCTURAL]
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:WOOD:FAIRWOOD_TEMPLATE]
      [MATERIAL_VALUE:2][VALUE:2]
      [STATE_NAME:ALL_SOLID:waterholly]
      [STATE_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:waterholly]
      [PREFIX:NONE]
      [SOLID_DENSITY:610] 608
   [TREE:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:WOOD]
   [PREFSTRING:loose inflorescences]
   [WET]
   [BIOME:ANY_TROPICAL] --this will do for now.
   [FREQUENCY:20]
   [SAPLING]
   [TREE_TILE:5][DEAD_TREE_TILE:5][TREE_COLOR:2:0:1][DEAD_TREE_COLOR:7:0:0][SAPLING_COLOR:7:0:1][DEAD_SAPLING_COLOR:0:0:1]


American ebony, Brya ebenus, 1185, "Cuba, Dominican Republic, Guadelope, Jamaica"
(Brown ebony, Caesalpinia granadillo, 1009)
(African ebony, Diospyros mespiliformis, 801)
[PLANT:EBONY] added by TomiTapio
   [NAME:ebony][NAME_PLURAL:ebony][ADJ:ebony]
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:STRUCTURAL:STRUCTURAL_PLANT_TEMPLATE]
   [BASIC_MAT:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:STRUCTURAL]
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:WOOD:GOODWOOD_TEMPLATE]
      [MATERIAL_VALUE:3][VALUE:3]
      [STATE_NAME:ALL_SOLID:ebony]
      [STATE_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:ebony]
      [PREFIX:NONE]
      [SOLID_DENSITY:1185] mighty!
   [TREE:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:WOOD]
   [PREFSTRING:heavy weight]
   [PREFSTRING:dark patterns]
   [DRY][WET] unknown
   [BIOME:ANY_TROPICAL_FOREST]  --this will do for now.
   [FREQUENCY:17] --because it's goodwood
   [SAPLING]
   [TREE_TILE:5][DEAD_TREE_TILE:5][TREE_COLOR:2:0:1][DEAD_TREE_COLOR:7:0:0][SAPLING_COLOR:7:0:1][DEAD_SAPLING_COLOR:0:0:1]

"Satinwood can be polished to a high gloss. Satinwood is hard, fine-grained and durable with a satinlike sheen, much used in cabinetmaking, especially in marquetry."
West Indian satinwood, Zanthoxylum flavum, loads of uses, "Bahamas, Brazil, Cuba, Dominican Republic, Guadeloupe, Haiti, Jamaica, Puerto Rico, United States",
[PLANT:SATINWOOD] added by TomiTapio
   [NAME:satinwood][NAME_PLURAL:satinwood][ADJ:satinwood]
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:STRUCTURAL:STRUCTURAL_PLANT_TEMPLATE]
   [BASIC_MAT:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:STRUCTURAL]
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:WOOD:GOODWOOD_TEMPLATE]
      [MATERIAL_VALUE:3][VALUE:3]
      [STATE_NAME:ALL_SOLID:satinwood]
      [STATE_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:satinwood]
      [PREFIX:NONE]
      [SOLID_DENSITY:900]
   [TREE:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:WOOD]
   [PREFSTRING:heavy weight]
   [PREFSTRING:grand luster]
   [DRY][WET] unknown
   [BIOME:ANY_TROPICAL_FOREST]  --this will do for now.
   [FREQUENCY:17] --because it's goodwood
   [SAPLING]
   [TREE_TILE:5][DEAD_TREE_TILE:5][TREE_COLOR:2:0:1][DEAD_TREE_COLOR:7:0:0][SAPLING_COLOR:7:0:1][DEAD_SAPLING_COLOR:0:0:1]
   
African satinwood, Pericopsis spp., "Boat building (general), Door, Furniture, Joinery, Millwork, Tool handles, Vehicle parts", 640 density, tropical, "Cameroon, Congo, Ghana, Ivory Coast"
[PLANT:YELLOW_SATINWOOD] added by TomiTapio
   [NAME:yellow satinwood][NAME_PLURAL:yellow satinwood][ADJ:yellow satinwood]
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:STRUCTURAL:STRUCTURAL_PLANT_TEMPLATE]
   [BASIC_MAT:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:STRUCTURAL]
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:WOOD:FAIRWOOD_TEMPLATE]
      [MATERIAL_VALUE:2][VALUE:2]
      [STATE_NAME:ALL_SOLID:yellow satinwood]
      [STATE_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:yellow satinwood]
      [PREFIX:NONE]
      [SOLID_DENSITY:640]
   [TREE:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:WOOD]
   [PREFSTRING:fine luster]
   [DRY][WET] unknown
   [BIOME:ANY_TROPICAL_FOREST]  --this will do for now.
   [FREQUENCY:25]
   [SAPLING]
   [TREE_TILE:5][DEAD_TREE_TILE:5][TREE_COLOR:2:0:1][DEAD_TREE_COLOR:7:0:0][SAPLING_COLOR:7:0:1][DEAD_SAPLING_COLOR:0:0:1]

[TheIcelandicManiac]

I need help with Blast furnices.

I have 217 coke bars 300 iron bars and loads of limonite(fluxstone) and yet it wont let me make 6 steel bar reaction.
am i doing something wrong?

it just says reqiers fule

[Morwaul]

uhm...limonite is iron....limestone is flux