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[Dutchling]

Deon, I've had a lot of problems on my embark with coal since .19 and later versions. It just seems like you have a ton of native gold or galena but not enough coke to smelt it. You can of course use magma but some people like to stay near the ground and use coal/coke.
So I have a suggestion: Anthracite. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthracite) also called black coal or dark coal has a higher carbon content than lignite and but. coal according to the wiki so it could be a coal that gives you four coke innstead of 2/3.
EDIT: It also appears in metamorphic layers wich is IIRC the layer with lots of gems and very few usueful minerals?

[TomiTapio]

Deon, I've had a lot of problems on my embark with coal since .19 and later versions. It just seems like you have a ton of native gold or galena but not enough coke to smelt it. You can of course use

The vanilla DF ore system has changed: you get one shallow and one deep metal ore per biome. No longer 5-10 ores on one's embark. I get frickin' sphalerite 80% of the time. Once in 15 forts I think I've seen iron ore. Maybe 2 in 15 I've hit upon coal.

Try to have 3 biomes on your embark for more metal variety. If you put the "mineral scarcity" or such worldgen param to it minimum, you get lots of The Same Ore in your map.
And dig three mining shafts down to -20 to explore, and if you like the metals you find, don't abandon this exploratory embark.

[Morwaul]

Hey Tomi, any chance of another quick and dirty update for .23 until Deon is able to put out an official release?

[TomiTapio]

(commands daylight savings time to 7 devices...)
My .22 raws should work fine for a few days, as .23 was just quick bugfixes.
Hmm it's rather quick though... zip and upload to my Dropbox and copy the public link from there. It's not perfect but it's what I used today.
Here: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8967397/Gen23_Ironhand_March26_interim_raws.zip
with Giant Rat toned down a little. And sphalerite's frequency reduced. Maybe I should remove pig milk.

Also you might want to try out my http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8967397/announcements.txt init where some combat events appear in the main fort mode log, for fun.

[Morwaul]

Thanks Tomi!  I really appreciate it.  I want to start a new fort but I want to be able to use it for the new version.  I'm never sure when an update is going to make me generate a new world.

Does anyone know, if I created a world in .21 will I need to do a new one for .23 or can I use the same save?

[meowmix]

is the download link for the new version up?

[WraithLord24]

I dont think deon's finished updating it yet so no.

[pdennjosh123]

You know this could be interesting... In adventure mode you could eventually make your way to be a ruler of a civilization, and in turn you kind of turn it into fortress mode but in a more linear sense.... I dont know if you could do that already, but that would be something to shoot for in the long run when your playing adventure mode 

[Angel Of Death]

You know this could be interesting... In adventure mode you could eventually make your way to be a ruler of a civilization, and in turn you kind of turn it into fortress mode but in a more linear sense.... I dont know if you could do that already, but that would be something to shoot for in the long run when your playing adventure mode 

You can't.

[Deon]

Thanks Tomi!  I really appreciate it.  I want to start a new fort but I want to be able to use it for the new version.  I'm never sure when an update is going to make me generate a new world.

Does anyone know, if I created a world in .21 will I need to do a new one for .23 or can I use the same save?

Yes, you will need a new world.

I dont think deon's finished updating it yet so no.

Yep, I only updated it to .23 yesterday, I still need to change a lot of stuff.

[Deon]

03/27/2011 Released Dwarf Fortress 0.31.24

Ouch. What is going on :/.

[TomiTapio]

Looks like Toady thought the healthcare was all perfect now, but it was not so. So two hospital bugfixes, STAT!

Just checked the raw changes between vanilla .23 and .24, nothing important major. Toady gave dragons a claw attack (we had already), renamed guineafowl offspring, different workshop shortcut key in clay crafts & glaze, tweak to rodent men's bite. And corrected bad NECK duplicatename in
[BODY:NECK_SPINE]
   [BP:NECK_SPINE:neck's spine:STP][CON_CAT:NECK][NERVOUS][INTERNAL][SMALL][SKELETON][CONNECTOR][CATEGORY:SPINE]  [DEFAULT_RELSIZE:100]
may avoid one type of crash with that duplicate name removal.

[Deon]

different workshop shortcut key in clay crafts & glaze

I already had it tweaked, and rodent men are ratmen in our case, so it should be fine .

Also another bug: it looks like giraffes have no hooves (in vanilla; in Genesis they do).

[Kogut]

Is it reported on mantis?

[TomiTapio]

Edit: rolled world, embarked, Instant Crash! Repeatable, too. Filed a bugreport http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=4357
and save at http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=4048   anyone want to try if crash on their machine, and comment about result on Mantis?

Also, two other worlds has same on-embark crash. My raws are De Bom.
Searched for the new neck_spine and only vanilla giraffe has it. Copied to my.

Todo tweak: capybaras should be benign and non-interrupting. They're large rodent-bunnies that eat water plants.
Todo: "cave fish skin" should not be a leather.
Todo: marmot, crow and pigeon leather away. Duck and goose leather armor? No. I guess all bird leathers (except ostrich and emu) should be removed.
Hooray found third thing on current map: cobaltite! (previous were coal and gold.)

Tomi, I dl'd Ironhands .23 version and copied your raws over the top of it.  It did not crash on embark

Did you try DF .24 vanilla and the save I put to DFFD?