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[Torgan]

And the Cave idea, thats good and fine, only problem is that you can search Hours without finding a Cave underground. The only real option is to use reveal. I mean, just as an example, imagine a Cave being on level 108, i start on Level 140. If i dont know that theres a Cave i have to dig around in all 32 levels below my Fort until i finally find that cave. its a bit hardcore isnt it?

Sorry a few pages late but do you know you can press (d)->(i) to designate an up/down staircase, hold down the mouse where you want to dig the stair then move up or down levels to designate a staircase?  You can only do it for a 1x1 square but it takes about 30 seconds to designate a 2x2 staircase that will reach the bottom of the map.  It doesn't take very long to mine out either, I just do that at embark now and you can have a magma industry up and running within the first season or two.  Churn out some metal goblets and you're sorted for the first caravan.

[Stuebi]

And the Cave idea, thats good and fine, only problem is that you can search Hours without finding a Cave underground. The only real option is to use reveal. I mean, just as an example, imagine a Cave being on level 108, i start on Level 140. If i dont know that theres a Cave i have to dig around in all 32 levels below my Fort until i finally find that cave. its a bit hardcore isnt it?

Sorry a few pages late but do you know you can press (d)->(i) to designate an up/down staircase, hold down the mouse where you want to dig the stair then move up or down levels to designate a staircase?  You can only do it for a 1x1 square but it takes about 30 seconds to designate a 2x2 staircase that will reach the bottom of the map.  It doesn't take very long to mine out either, I just do that at embark now and you can have a magma industry up and running within the first season or two.  Churn out some metal goblets and you're sorted for the first caravan.

AWESOME, thank you very much! Im doing a new embark anyway, i forgot to limit the Popcap and at 90/100 Dwarfs my game starts to rapidly loose FPS. I Thought about setting it to maybe 60 or 70 but then i wont get any Sieges right?

[Delta_02_Cat]

As far as I know you need 20 dwarfs for sieges.

[Qinetix]

wait why don't we have bees o.o

[TomiTapio]

wait why don't we have bees o.o

Toady is adding bees and honeymaking feature in .31.19 (not released yet!), and lots of other things, clay crafts, probably wool-from-sheep too. No point in adding bees to Genesis before the official bees.

And bees are tiny, so they are vermin, and can't be interacted with except:
- disturb a nest of them
- cat or other verminhunter kills and hauls them
- starving dwarf looks for them for food.
Forest fire probably doesn't kill vermin. Someone should try with magma.

Deon, shall we have gators and crocs trainable as Thundercraft requested? Would the siegers bring too many of them?

[Deon]

As far as I know you need 20 dwarfs for sieges.

For werewolves and centaurs. For illithids and demons you need more (60 or 80, I should check the numbers).
It's moddable (PROGRESS_TRIGGER_POP_SIEGE in entity_default.txt and entity_illithid.txt).

bees

Check the latest devlog entry .

Deon, shall we have gators and crocs trainable as Thundercraft requested? Would the siegers bring too many of them?

Something feels a bit wrong with the idea, but war crocodiles sound badass. Why not?

[arghy]

egypt had war crocs

[BigD145]

Well damn. Here I was worried about a Thunderbird and a war rhino just kicked her ass. The rhino only suffered a bruised pancreas.

[Kogut]

egypt had war crocs

What? It is probably legend.

[arghy]

egypt had war crocs

What? It is probably legend.

Hey they had the idea and thats all that matters to dwarves besides i want a moat that drops down into holding tank filled with war crocs that drains into my main hall so my dwarves can watch as the water turns red and rains down on them. You could also use grates to gather the gear from the dead enemys to!

[Flaede]

Question - Dolomite. Does it did you mess with it? Does it dissolve in water now or something?

I just mined out some dolomite in an aquifer. I know my High Master miner created at least one dolomite rock out of 8 tiles mined out. There are none down there, and it wasn't hauled anywhere else. I checked in the stock menu, and the only dolomite I have is listed as being used in the ramps in the aquifer channel. I did not construct these and they seem to be natural (mine-out-able) ramps.

what the heck? I just wanted to check here before I decided it was a general DF thing.

[Deon]

The dolomite is vanilla.

[Flaede]

weeeird. I cannot duplicate this. I guess I have to assume I imagined the mined out rocks.

[Deon]

Could it be that some craftsdwarf grabbed them for mugs?

Anyway, I plan some updates, with a rebalance for the castes and some Fun elements.

[Deon]

So, don't expect anything gamebreaking from the next update. But those who mod and who like to peek into raws should like this update. I am moving all creatures around, based on their types, and reducing the number of files. Also I am adding a header to each file with the list of creatures (and I will mention on wiki/first post) which file has which critters.

Also it helps me to tweak similar creatures. And I've added TRAINABLE to crocodiles and alligators. If you have any suggestions/requests, feel free to ask now.