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[TuefelHundenIV]

Checked the d_int file and sure enough temperature was turned off.  It works now thanks for the pointing that out.

[WraithLord24]

Hello Deon ive been reading this thread for some time but this is the firdt time ive posted, but anyway i like to take a quick look through legends mode and ive noticed that that the Thunderbird dies out in the first 20 years of gen. Is that just me or was that a mistake?

[TomiTapio]

ive noticed that that the Thunderbird dies out in the first 20 years of gen. Is that just me or was that a mistake?

Thanks for favoring the Genesis mod!
It's a mistake, it has [MAXAGE:10:20] like a normal animal. Should be 1000+ years

How fast does it take magma to heat up the surface if it's a good 100 blocks down (probably less) Or does the heat have to travel straight up?

I don't think the heat will travel that far, would take too much CPU time for that. I suspect magma's heat travels like 2-6- squares, and less than that up/down.
Try "dfprobe" hack utility to see temperatures to find out.
Check http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/DF2010:Magma and you can ask in its discussion tab http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/DF2010_Talk:Magma


Current 2x2 fort's log:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

--Columnmirrored
2x2, 1sq mountain, 3sq temp shrubland I guess.
start digging home into mountainside. Lignite, limonite.
the snows melt.
20th mid-spring, the pools melt.
one of our bulldogs got an eagle.
squad-hunt elk for food.
migrants to 11.
start filling indoor pond.
Ezra traders.
Autumn.
assign archer uniform, to free up axes.
pools freeze.
migrants to 16.
home caravan, good trading.
make indoor trade depot.
have 24 iron.

Year 2 spring.
Tur the axer leads a biting demo.
405+ fps, 2x2 embark, 16 citizens, 5+20 animals, 3 cavern layers (0 open). 29k wealth. 430 stones. Ramps instead of stair stack.
(170-230 fps after make first bins (30).)
cage all puppies.
migrants to 34. fps to 345!
sylvans, duskies.
Doctor and leader married.
Doctor's carpenter mood: puzzle-tree weapon rack, 5k.
Year 2 summer.
335 fps, 2x2 embark, 34 citizens, 6+29 animals, 3 cavern layers (0 open). 77k wealth. 570 stones. Ramps instead of stair stack.
migrants to 42.
soldier had a baby boy.
keeper traders.
..
Year 2 autumn.
expand out base, with walling off some outdoors.
migrants to 50.
demonic ambush atop our bit of the mountain.
make two novice squads. and burrow rule.
lost three. Bronze bardiche spilled her guts.
Urist McSpear did well.
caravan comes.
fire, 12 fps. 2 fps. fire vs. frozen ponds.
..
fire is over. haul the battlefield.
Year 3 spring.
doc had a baby boy.
Hammer-user died of thirst and left a baby behind. ramps to upstairs were wrong.
young trees to cut!

A red dragon comes!! gigantic with incredible muscles. Trouble.
cobalt dagger fractures its skull.
*iron spear* gets its spine.
27 screenfuls of RD's report. No casualties.

migrants.
sylvan traders. duskies.
demonic ambush.
a flayer siege. victory, they flee. Two got foot injuries. No-one will carry them, they not unconscious nor hungry!
4 in rest.
150 fps, 2x2 embark, 55 citizens, 17+45 animals, 3 cavern layers (0 open). 275k wealth. 1350 stones. Ramps instead of stair stack. lignite smoking outdoors.
migrants to 63.
keepers. dig reservoir. many demonic ambushes, and reannouncements of them.
Victory, lost one or two.
single dark elf bow-ambusher.
single barghest ambusher. got a spaniel.
elite manager is stuck atop wall. rescued!
woe, had no carpenter shops for many seasons.
migrants to 69.

late autumn, orcs. demonic ambushes. the gobs fight each other!!
flayer siege right after. damn void master flies over wall. Ogres with professions..
victory. lost many soldiers. Six. Cage traps did okay. 102 fps
11 in hospital.
trade: 68k for 1144 red dragon meat... but caravan can not carry it, way too heavy. Yes they can, when buy all their cages and stuff.
Year 3? winter.
tantrums.
haul the battlefield, and bury our dead.
..
better walling off for defense.
a 40+ flayer & ogre siege comes. a mighty battle! we down to 60.
8 foes remain but they are scattered. victory, 57 of us left. 56.
slay last foe, flayer stuck in dry pool.

Year 4 spring.
15 of 54 in hospital... and lye maker died of bear.
loads of miasma. 95 fps.
migrants.
Nish berserks.
cook anger-killed woodcutter with a PIKE.
Kubuk went mad. we are 60.
..
much tantrums.
a giantess comes. (lasted 8 pages)
Avuz the good berserks. we are 58.
late spring, flayer siege (4.5 pagefuls of invaders). three unlucky/morondorfs wandered out.
52 of us. 47 us. 42. flayers win.
with 14 military in hospital, we cannot win. hospital is slaughtered.

18 of us. some flayers flee. child berserk. 4 hostiles remain in area, a poor victory.
7 in rest.
chase invasion-ogres. First lizardfolk ambush... bushfire. 16 of us.
ogre architect taunts us and prevents civilians from walking to base.
water stores run out. outdoor water remains.
furnacer berserk. 11 of us. The walking wounded flee the site.

When in doubt, wall off the outside world. Or put 30 weapon traps (150-300 weapons total) in a row.

[Samohan25]

I have some captured werewolves that I'm thinking of using as training for a military force, but I can't strip them of their weapons (As they have none) and I don't know how to get the military to attack one in a secure enviroment.

[Torgan]

Ha, nice write up Tomi.

Samohan all I did with my werewolves was build the cages in a barracks, link a few to a lever, put all my military in the barracks, lock the door then pull the lever.  Bear in mind I had some skilled solider migrants to beef up my military, I wouldn't try this with only newly drafted recruits.  There seems to be a definite advantage to numbers so having 2 werewolves and 10 melee soldiers seemed to work fine.

Or you could just deconstruct their cage inside a pit and let them be target practice for your marksdwarves.

[Samohan25]

Fair enough, still got my 2 hardcore miners, their kill total includes four forgotern beasts but even still I think I need more military soldiers.

[EvilJawa]

wow phoebus tileset for genesis! =D

[TomiTapio]

Here's my suggestion for tuning the Warlock caste of the demonic alliance:
No wrestler skill bias, but fights like a mean funker. Thanks to his magicks.

Code: [Select]

[CASTE:WARLOCK]
[DESCRIPTION:This evil sorcerer traded his soul for powerful magicks. Beware of his fireballs!]
[POP_RATIO:35]
[MALE]
[SPEED:700] --mystic speed
[FLEEQUICK] --warlock also means "coward".
[CASTE_NAME:warlock:warlocks:warlock]
[FIREBREATH][FIREIMMUNE]

--NATURAL_SKILL:WRESTLING:2]
[NATURAL_SKILL:DODGING:9] --mystic spell
[NATURAL_SKILL:GRASP_STRIKE:2]
[NATURAL_SKILL:STANCE_STRIKE:1]
[NATURAL_SKILL:SITUATIONAL_AWARENESS:8]
[NATURAL_SKILL:MELEE_COMBAT:2]
[NATURAL_SKILL:RANGED_COMBAT:7] --skill and dexterity buff
[NATURAL_SKILL:SNEAK:6] --mystic cloak

[PHYS_ATT_RANGE:STRENGTH:1450:1950:2150:2250:2350:2550:3250]
[PHYS_ATT_RANGE:ENDURANCE:1450:1950:2150:2250:2350:2550:3250]
[PHYS_ATT_RANGE:AGILITY:1450:1950:2150:2250:2350:2550:3250] --mystic buff


[Thundercraft]

Expanded bestiary

...
- New wild critters: penguin, ent, giant sandworm, eland, seal, kangaroo, dama gazelle, ostrich, parrot, python, boa, asp, rattlesnake, sand cobra, giant otter, forest cat, wild turkey, seagull, albatross, pelican, swan, eagle, dire wolf, silver fox, giant ant, sand antlion, skunk, black crow, hercinia, firebird, leech, minnow, anubite, white lion, mammoth, rock lion, sand lion, jackal, raptor, dragon raptor, bronze statue, rhino, giraffe, eagle, nith...

Not to nitpick too much, but eagle is mentioned twice in the list. Or are there two different eagle types?

Edit:

HARMLESS, HUH?
{Harmless minnows murdering mastiff}

The poor dog was probably in the water where it was slowed down, while the minnows are very fast. So yeah, it sucked all blood out of its throat. And I think there were more than one, right? There are "shaking" attacks on different parts of the dog which follow each other, so it probably had a whole bunch of minnows hanging on its skin.
...
P.P.S. "Harmless minnows: a new CARP of DF"

Seems to me that minnows are too dangerous. They are tiny little fishes that are supposed to be harmless, correct? (And not evil, blood-sucking, alien xenotype parasites.) Why not slow their speed way down and make them pacifists? I mean, in real life you wouldn't see a dog or a human eaten alive by, say, a bluejay or a cardinal, would you? While this is a fantasy game, this seems to break realism. Not every critter in the game has to be a challenging fight.

[Samohan25]

It could be irony I guess... And the description only says that it 'looks' harmless. Despite what you said being completely true (there should be some non-agressive creatures) DF (and Genesis in particular) are about chalenges for players who want a more diverse and exciting game as well as (more relevant to DF in general) those 'What on earth just happened?' moments, like when a new player discovers Carp, or !!Dwarves!!.

[Jacob/Lee]

P.P.S. "Harmless minnows: a new CARP of DF"

Oh no, sturgeon are the new carp of DF. Those bastards can fight.

[Samohan25]

Is that meant to happen? 
either there is something wrong with DF or turkeys have really awkward spleens.

[rephikul]

ya that's standard DF anatomy for you.

[Samohan25]

Was his spleen actualy in his foot of is this just a slight bug feature.

[Deon]

What's wrong with a spleen in a lower body?