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[Deon]

I forgot to list the value .

Even underground plants, not affected by the weather, have their own lifecycles. I think it would be too easy if they grew all-year long .

[Deon]

I've got cool small guys by TomiTapio: bog frogs. They are small but numerous. They should add some needed life to the swamps. I already made graphics for them so it's just a matter of the next release when they appear.

[TomiTapio]

I'm thinking about beavers and lynxes (bobcats) next.
Maybe I'll create an attacker wildlife that comes in group of 15-20, but is not jackal-dog-wolf sized, but rabbit-turkey sized. Should be demonic to have a motivation to attack armored dwarf town. (Hmm... vorpal bunnies, ravenous rats, nether scarabs, flying piranhas, clockwork metal turtles...)
It can be Savage in Genesis; and everywhere in my worlds. (I think zombies currently are super weak. Evil region's main problem is Trees Not Growing and skeletal high-speed wildlife.)

Really would like a rabbit-like thing in the caverns, but haven't gotten a good idea yet -- "cave rabbit" doesn't cut it for me.


Right, while I'm posting, might as well put up my current fort, which has the new "yes flux" ironworks.

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-- KelloIske, Bellstruck, region6
with genesis 3.12 things, flux.
start from Valliongelma, "Rampartproblem", a mountain fortress. Owner: The Steamy Ink, dwarves. Parent Civ: The Doors of Polishing, 151 dwarves.

3x2, 3 temp savanna, 3 temp.marsh, chert marble gabbro diorite granite.
two lions, 8 copper, 2 tin. ? leather. some bauxite and ilmenite.
..
make axe, 2 picks, dig, find iron. caves at -6.
the rest of the bronze becomes 3 daggers.
summer. fill reservoir. hospital is made.
3 migrants. train the lions. second thief already, way way faster than lions.
make pure-iron anvils and well chains.

autumn.
295-310 fps, 3x2 embark, 10 citizens, 2+6 animals, 2 cavern layers (1 opened, no path). 17k wealth. 360 stones. home at -3.
lovely 8 migrants, we are 18! One professional soldier-legendcheesemaker.
six do foraging.
butcher two muskoxen. (255 fps) 46 pure-iron, nice.
Gotta dig up some marble for steel. (I'd change marble's gray-stone dug-ore color.)

home caravan. good times. ponds have safety-ramps.
dig larger hospital / sleeping quarters.
winter. try to sell nice statues. cow cage bought, 1100G weight, 167G statues out.
now for a dining room with dozens of statues. Have a decent engraver.
..
Year 2 spring. Have bull and cow, try some milking. One bucketful..
Have 15 steel and 4 iron.
hunt several giraffes!
A great pile of migrants, hooray! Beards a-flying! we are 38 with 108k wealth.

potash maker's mood: pure iron goblet, 25k! image of dwarf praying to the dwarf deity "Blue".
three caravans. good trading got wood and food and leathers for bags.
137-182 fps, 3x2 embark, 38 citizens, ? animals, 2 cavern layers (1 opened, no path).
keeper traders.

Year 2 autumn.
Order all 600 gypsum to dump-piles.
open caves up. get webs.
run out of coke, and have no logs.
178 fps, 3x2 embark, 39 citizens, 2+22 animals, 2 cavern layers (1 opened, watery). 228k wealth. 900 stones. home at -3.
dig fancy rooms.
home caravan. good, good.
who is the woodcutter?

Year 2 winter. Build 2nd well, of finest pieces.
a leather mood:  `Kirves mtr', Recruit has created Vaikeusveny, a giant earthworm hide exquisite shoe! 36 000. with three images.
giraffe hunting.
Veitsi the soldier is again voted to leader.
Hoo boy, yummy giraffe bits!
miner-bowyer had a baby.

Year 3 spring. 1250 total food.
hunt a lone wild donkey.
make three of the squad one use crossbows.
migrants! we are 62!
mood: giraffe leather dress, 9kk with image of female jade dwarf.
find more caverns on -11 to -14.
even more caverns?
magma sea at -16 to -20.
150 fps, 3x2 embark, 62 citizens, 3+26 animals, 2 cavern layers (all open and magmasea seen). 478k wealth. 1250 stones. home at -3.
novice bowdwarf-squad can not shoot down an eagle! Eagle lost one eye however.

sylvans, orcs, duskies.
shoot some buzzards, and find a thief. Shooters did well this time!
A duskie chokes an eagle. Damn!
Great fun giraffe hunting! Shooters now have most impressive range.

Giant mole and crundle in the fancy rooms. sneaky. Should install traps.
The dwarf Sapeli was ripped to bits by a giant mole!!
A pet turkey has a broken lung. It's wheezing by the well.
128 fps, 3x2 embark, 61 citizens, 3+29 animals, 2 cavern layers (all open and magmasea seen). 574k wealth. 1400 stones. home at -3.
spot a group of pelicans, order three squads to kill them. CRASH!
..
Year 3 summer. do the trading.
block non-main entrances to home. move outdoors stockpiles indoors. (112 fps)
five wolves approach. Hack and shoot them.
A WYVERN COMES! Easy victory, it was pretty slow. lost a war lion, who took most of its acid.

two caravans. trade meals into exotic steel weapons.
miner-doctor is now mayor. reassign rooms.
Year 3 autumn.

[Deon]

I wonder if anyone uses psychiatrists. I find them useful since it removes many of bad thoughts from your leader, and you can swap them so it's not always the same dwarf.

The idea with swarming animals is fun, but they will die to axes quickly if they are small... And zombies are really weak, you can chop one's hand off and it collapses, so I consider them broken for now.

[calrogman]

Found a small bug.  The Orc tiles are contained in raw/graphics/orcs.PNG but are referenced in the raws as orcs.png.  This isn't a problem on Mac OS or Windows which use case-insensitive filesystems, but is an issue on more sensible operating systems, such as Linux or BSD.

[Deon]

I didn't know about that, thank you .

[TomiTapio]

I wonder if anyone uses psychiatrists. I find them useful since it removes many of bad thoughts from your leader, and you can swap them so it's not always the same dwarf.
The idea with swarming animals is fun, but they will die to axes quickly if they are small... And zombies are really weak, you can chop one's hand off and it collapses, so I consider them broken for now.

I use the counselor position almost always. Having expedition leader in soldier squad is bothersome as one training session can outlast the patience of visiting civ liaisons. But what can you do if you have two good soldiers and other is Leader.

Well, the point of the "rat swarm" is not to have high endurance (colossus/bronzestatue has that), but to be dangerous if someone gets caught by them and help doesn't arrive right away. If you have pause-fort-on-pet-death you have an easier time commanding your military.
Maybe I should try a high-endurance creature, a NoBleed NoPainFainting horror, ie. a skeletal undead. But which appears outside evil regions; skeletons can march a long way given the right magic or spirits.

Any ideas, anyone, how to make dragons A Real Threat?
A "karmic" variant of creature would have super-poisonous blood, so if you hurt the creature you get hurt from its blood.
(Karmics are in ADoM roguelike, http://www.adomgb.info/adomgb-0-9.html )

[Randomtask]

Many apologies if this has been asked before, but I did a search and couldn't find anything.

When I query my furniture workshop, and go to add a new task, the menu is completely empty.

Whassupwiddat?

[Deon]

It means you don't have required materials to make stuff.

[TomiTapio]

The important item at furniture shop is make stone bed, out of stone and cloth.

I might add some common items' weights to the DF wiki, so I'll collect some. (G stands in for the angular gamma symbol, and it is actually kilograms.)

161 G stone stack
167 G stone statue
37 G elite hardwood (Tomi's) stack
22-29 common wood stack

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6-x  rock blocks
15-16 steels and bronzes
78  black steel anvil

12 iron flask (so, 12 kilogram flasks totally slow military down.)
19 steel mail
1 cap, gauntlets
7 steel helm
22 steel chain leggings
22 steel greaves (way high I think, seven boots make one pair of shinplate-pants-greaves! materialsize=6)
3 steel high boot
2 leather backpack

2223 G giraffe corpse

234 G : 130 wyvern fat, value 1950c.

[Randomtask]

Ahhhhh, I needed cloth. Thanks.

[Deon]

I should make a list of all custom reactions on the wiki soon. Just a bit more time .

[nekoexmachina]

at first i was like new kewl mode
but the, i 'ffffffuuuuuuu'
cause always i get some whole-map fire of some fireball-throwing dorf. ;(

[Deon]

Just remove the fireballs from the obsidian dwarves if you really hate forest fires. I personally quite like them.

[rainekage]

I try to keep the obsidian dwarves away from combat, but as I base careers on statistics, sometimes it's impossible to avoid that Legendary Swordsdwarf (Obsidian) who migrates to the fort.

Although on principle, I never make them my brewer. 

Can farms be lit on fire?  I've never checked.

Hmm, my orc adventurer was assigned to slay a demon.  But the task is centered on the town itself.  Is it possible the task is below the town?  As in, dozens of Z-levels down in a mysterious place of instant death?

Because if that's the case, I don't think all that black steel I started out with is going to cut it.  Not that I can ever find the cavern entrances when I need to.