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[TomiTapio]

Also, just how effective is platinum for weapons? I find it quite funny and annoying that goblins run around with masterwork platinum spears.
Seriously though, why even the most generic goblin enemies have such high quality items?

Gobbos have platinum because it isn't an alloy, and gobs have STONE_PREF (ore smelting). How come they have masterwork items?
Might be better to just have gobboes with bronze-making and wrought-making.

some archery strikes:

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The flying {-mahogany bolt-} strikes The Elephant in the upper body, tearing the fat and bruising the muscle!
The flying {-mahogany bolt-} strikes The Elephant in the left front leg, tearing the fat and bruising the muscle!
The flying {-mahogany bolt-} strikes The Elephant in the left rear leg, tearing the fat and bruising the muscle!
The flying {-mahogany bolt-} strikes The Elephant in the lower body, tearing the fat!
The flying {-mahogany bolt-} strikes The Elephant in the upper body, tearing the fat and bruising the muscle!
The flying {-mahogany bolt-} strikes The Elephant in the left front leg, tearing the fat and bruising the muscle!
The flying {-mahogany bolt-} strikes The Elephant in the upper body, tearing the fat and bruising the muscle and bruising the liver!
The flying {-mahogany bolt-} strikes The Elephant in the left rear leg, tearing the fat and bruising the muscle!
The flying {-mahogany bolt-} strikes The Elephant in the left rear leg, tearing the fat and bruising the muscle!
The flying {-mahogany bolt-} strikes The Elephant in the right front leg, tearing the fat and bruising the muscle!

The flying ({ð®ssilver bolt¯ð}) strikes The Cougar in the upper body, tearing the muscle and tearing the right lung!
The flying {*mahogany bolt*} strikes The Cougar in the head, tearing the muscle and tearing the neck's muscle!
The flying {-mahogany bolt-} strikes The Cougar in the head, tearing the muscle, chipping the skull and tearing the brain!

The flying ({billon bolt}) strikes The Eagle in the throat, tearing the skin! A major artery has been opened by the strike!
The flying ({billon bolt}) strikes The Eagle in the upper body, tearing the muscle, fracturing the right true rib and tearing the right lung!

The flying {mango wood bolt} strikes The Rattlesnake in the head, bruising the scale!
The flying {-glumprong bolt-} strikes The Rattlesnake in the body, bruising the scale! Is scale better than elephant tough skin??

The flying ({billon bolt}) strikes The Rabbit in the left front paw, fracturing the bone!
An artery has been opened by the strike, a sensory nerve has been severed, a ligament has been torn and a tendon has been torn!
The flying ({billon bolt}) strikes The Rabbit in the upper body, tearing the muscle and tearing the left lung! The Rabbit is having trouble breathing!
The flying ({billon bolt}) strikes The Rabbit in the right front leg, shattering the bone!

The flying ({w-iron bodkin arrow}) strikes The Gray Werewolf Wrestler in the mouth, tearing apart the muscle!
The flying ({w-iron bolt}) strikes The Bloody Werewolf Wrestler in the upper body, tearing the muscle and tearing the heart!
The flying ({w-iron bolt}) strikes The Whitemane Werewolf Wrestler in the left upper arm, tearing the skin!

[Deon]

The flying {-mahogany bolt-} strikes The Cougar in the head, tearing the muscle, chipping the skull and tearing the brain!

Ahem, that's a problem I see here. How could it tear the brain when it just chipped the skull?

it said that the hammer hit her through the cloak, totally ignoring the 2 layers of heavy armor in the process.

Again, a DF weirdness, probably related to an above example. I haven't figured out why can an armor piece be ignored.

I think it goes through ALL armor levels, but have you ever seen "damages X through Y and Z"? I've never seen the "and" part, it looks like the announcer picks the armor piece which blocked the most damage and announces it. In case of cloak it blocked more damage than armor because it has bigger surface so the game thinks that it accepted more speed or acceleration, which is the most important (+weight) parameter of a blunt attack.

Basically more surface = better protection vs. blunt, and harder material = better protection vs. edge.

So the perfect defence would be a good armor under a metal robe. So far you can make only adamantine thread, but I plan to add asbestos so it should be a good material for clothes to provide additional protection vs. blunt attacks.

[Medicine Man]

Maybe the bolt struck with such force that it caused a paradox?Edit:All dwarfs are immune to fire and magma for some reason.

[Roses]

I'm using your mod (of course) and I have been experiencing some weird behavior. For some reason any time I kill an enemy (thief/ambusher/sieger doesn't matter) all of their drops are marked as forbidden, even though I have it set in the orders to claim the death items. I tried searching to see if this was a DF related bug or not but couldn't find anything. Any ideas?

[MiamiBryce]

... I plan to add asbestos so it should be a good material for clothes to provide additional protection vs. blunt attacks.

How about, rather than mesothelioma causing asbestos, you add in some sort of fantasy weave or cloth that takes normal thread and make it stronger.  For example, you could add a new material called "Dwarven Denim" which is a cloth that is stronger than normal cloth.  Then throw in a custom workshop to turn, if you want to be hardcore, cave cotton into Dwarven Denim, then you can dye it blue with dimple dye, and then you can make trousers out of it and...I think i should stop there.

[omglazers]

Edit:All dwarfs are immune to fire and magma for some reason.

You have temperature turned off.

[BigD145]

The flying {-mahogany bolt-} strikes The Cougar in the head, tearing the muscle, chipping the skull and tearing the brain!

Ahem, that's a problem I see here. How could it tear the brain when it just chipped the skull?

It must be the weaker brother of the magic bullet.

[TomiTapio]

Basically more surface = better protection vs. blunt, and harder material = better protection vs. edge.
So the perfect defence would be a good armor under a metal robe. So far you can make only adamantine thread, but I plan to add asbestos so it should be a good material for clothes to provide additional protection vs. blunt attacks.

Yeah annoying when a toughleather robe is the best possible head armor.
I think the brain-outside-skull problem is related to the "chain mail not protect genitals".

Please, no asbestos, that is not very medieval or Roman.
Maybe "make leather strip thread", get a high-strength thread material from that, then "weave leather with bone/wood reinforcements cloth armor". You know one can wear multiple layers of leather, just like three chain mails on one dwarf. Does the vanilla leather armor allow multi-wearing of it (Shaped or not)?
How about "Make armor from fiber rope"? And leather rope, and tree-flexible-bark rope. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cedar_bark_textile  )

ps. other things I thought today: womp rats. Bonfire workshop, constructed from 2 wood 2 charcoal, it outputs something very hot that starts a forest fire.
pps. entity_default, give [AMMO:ITEM_AMMO_BOLTS_TIP] to those who can make them. and same for stone-tip arrows. Because cavemen had flint-tip arrows.

[A Dwarven Smokeologist]

...Please, no asbestos, that is not very medieval or Roman...

Actually it's very much a Roman thing, they loved it because it couldn't burn and was therefor magical to them...

"History of Asbestos
Earliest Uses: The Greeks and The Romans

The earliest uses of asbestos date back almost 3,000 years to what is now considered Scandinavia, where archeologists have found pottery and chinking of log homes that utilized asbestos. But asbestos use became more prevalent during the apex of the Greek civilization when the "mystical" properties of asbestos made it almost as valuable as gold.  In fact, chrysotile, the most common form of asbestos in use today, is Greek for gold (chrysos) fiber (tilos)."

Is it possible to make it fireproof? I'll have my best warriors wear asbestos robes over their armor if it could protect from the occasional misthrown fireball!

[TomiTapio]

I don't think the Roman military wore asbestos to protect them from enemy weapons.

Epic were fighting in the one-stone-layer world...

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Year 2 autumn.
one mighty long elephant chase.
(260-275 fps)
duskie (cloth and thread!) and home caravans. buy 4-5 animals.
Year 2 winter.
make reservoir.
ezras. sylvans.
Year 3 spring.
Tool Playwheel cancels sleep: taken by mood! :´) hematite table, 27k.
an ettin comes. it and earlier gator died of arteries-open.
migrants to 69. (153 fps)
..
duskies. 10k trade. orcs. decent trade, gauntlets into cheese.
have three hunters. elephants. (ssilver bolt tears liver, other bolt tears lung, mostly chips bone.) cage between ponds got one and military finished two.
tame two asps. and two hurting elephants.
Year 3 summer.
more elephants. 330 ele meat. 604.
(76 fps in zoomed-out, 125-135 normal zoom)
sylvans. ezras. keepers. We Have War Elephants. ezras wanted steel crossbow instead of fancy royal food.
hunters bring swans and rabbits for a change.
Our mayor is one of the fish cleaners. talks well.

make a crossbow squad for fun. practice on swans.
Torni, maali, hauta and liivi have become marksdwarves!

3 caravans. were ambush, 2 squads. crossbow fun!
Year 3 winter.
10k of trade with orcs... cotton seeds from duskies... offer 10k to the dwarf king.
crossbow-squad doesn't want to kill rabbits. shout more at them.
elephant hunt with both squads. CRASH.
..
make obstacle courses and grindoriums.

shoot tigermen, meet an enemy ambush! a pack of war wolves??
WTF a camel ambush!!! with werewolves under them. civilians to base.
a caravan. another camel ambush. one more ambush.
bowdw died. armorer died. marksdw dead. wrestler died. other wrestler drowned by were.
make squad 3, melee. axer died. another ambush. camels, then weres. we might be lost!
nord & ezra caravans.
bowdw dead, where are the war elephants! 18 invaders remain!
victory! 8 camels captured.

Edit: Excel sheet of how steel crossbow bashing goes, and all that abovementioned battle.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8967397/oiledyears%20weres%20etc%20log.xls

Were my war elephants any good? had 3 or 4 of them, 3 remain.

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The Stray war Elephant gores The Camel    in the right front leg with her left tusk    fracturing the bone!
The Stray war Elephant gores The Camel    in the right front leg with her right tusk    fracturing the bone!
The Stray war Elephant gores The Camel    in the right front leg with her right tusk    fracturing the bone!
The Stray war Elephant gores The Camel    in the right front leg with her right tusk    shattering the bone!
The Stray war Elephant gores The Camel    in the rear hump with her right tusk    tearing the fat!
The Stray war Elephant gores The Camel    in the upper body with her right tusk    tearing the fat!
The Stray war Elephant gores The Camel    in the upper body with her right tusk    tearing the muscle and tearing apart the right lung!
The Stray war Elephant gores The Camel    in the lower body with her right tusk    tearing the muscle and tearing the guts!
The Stray war Elephant kicks The Camel    in the upper body with her left front foot    bruising the muscle and bruising the heart!
The Stray war Elephant kicks The Camel    in the lower body with her right front foot    bruising the muscle and bruising the pancreas!
The Stray war Elephant kicks The Camel    in the upper body with her right front foot    bruising the muscle and shattering the right true rib!

The war Elephant attacks The Camel but He jumps away!      
The war Elephant attacks The Camel but She jumps away!      
The war Elephant charges at The Camel!      
The war Elephant charges at The Camel!      
The war Elephant charges at The Camel!      
The war Elephant charges at The Camel!      
The war Elephant collides with The Camel!      
The war Elephant collides with The Camel!      
The war Elephant collides with The Camel!      
The war Elephant collides with The Camel!      
The war Elephant gores The Camel    in the left front leg with her right tusk    fracturing the bone and shattering the left front knee's bone!
The war Elephant gores The Camel    in the left front leg with her right tusk    fracturing the bone!
The war Elephant gores The Camel    in the left front leg with her right tusk    fracturing the bone!
The war Elephant gores The Camel    in the left rear leg with his right tusk    fracturing the bone!
The war Elephant gores The Camel    in the right front leg with his left tusk    fracturing the bone!
The war Elephant gores The Camel    in the third right rear toe with his left tusk    tearing apart the muscle!
The war Elephant gores The Camel    in the lower body with his right tusk    tearing the muscle and tearing apart the left kidney!
The war Elephant gores The Camel    in the right front hoof with her left tusk and the severed part sails off in an arc!   
The war Elephant gores The Camel    in the right rear hoof with his left tusk and the severed part sails off in an arc!   
The war Elephant grabs The Camel by the fourth right rear toe with her left front leg!      
The war Elephant is no longer stunned.      
The war Elephant kicks The Camel    in the lower body with her left front foot    bruising the muscle and bruising the guts!
The war Elephant kicks The Camel    in the upper body with her left front foot    bruising the muscle and bruising the left lung!
The war Elephant kicks The Camel    in the lower body with her left front foot    bruising the muscle and bruising the spleen!
The war Elephant kicks The Camel    in the head with his right front foot    bruising the muscle and shattering the skull!
The war Elephant kicks The Camel    in the second left rear toe with his left front foot    bruising the muscle!
The war Elephant kicks The Camel    in the throat with her left front foot    bruising the skin!
The war Elephant kicks The Camel    in the throat with her right front foot    bruising the skin!
The war Elephant kicks The Camel    in the left front leg with his right front foot    shattering the bone!
The war Elephant kicks The Camel    in the left rear leg with her left front foot    shattering the bone!
The war Elephant kicks The Camel    in the left rear leg with her right front foot    shattering the bone!
The war Elephant kicks The Camel    in the left rear leg with his left front foot    shattering the bone!
The war Elephant kicks The Camel    in the left rear leg with his left front foot    shattering the bone!
The war Elephant kicks The Camel    in the right rear leg with her left front foot    shattering the bone!
The war Elephant kicks The Camel    in the right rear leg with her right front foot    shattering the bone!
The war Elephant kicks The Camel    in the right rear leg with his left front foot    shattering the bone!
The war Elephant kicks The Camel    in the nose with his left front foot    tearing apart the cartilage!
The war Elephant leaps at The Camel!      
The war Elephant releases the grip of The war Elephant's left front leg on The Camel's fourth right rear toe.      
The war Elephant slams into an obstacle!      

[Z1000000m]

Please forbid goblins and alike from using platinum armor.
Even leggins can stop mighty artifact class BS Baxe, which makes dorfs very underpowered.
I mean, with such props, it can be used by leaders and such, but having legions of gobs and orcs equipped with even rarer platinum makes next to no sense.
Also testicles shouldn't have large arteries, lols.

Also, consider making a shop that improves one's shield skill. There are dummies for weapons, course for dodging ,but no shield one.

edit: ok, now this is just ridiculous, copper leggins should not deflect black steel weapons.
Im starting to think that BS stats are somewhat weak.
Apparently pitting a Bs dwarf agains 4 gobbos lead by an elf with silver/platinum gear resuslts in a load of deflected shots, 2 decapitations, one hearth cutting, 2 testicle torn-outs and one shitty ass lucky hit to the dwarfs leg resulting in all the breaks and fractures possible, followed by a thrid decapitation.
Turns out moss dwarfs are too cool to care about utterly screwed up legs, they just regenerate it in days.

[Deon]

Ahem, the platinum armor is somewhat unintended. Guys wanted to be able to make platinum weapons and armors, so I allowed it... but it turned this way. I think I will stop native platinum from being a platinum ore and make a reaction to get platinum. Thus without adding it to other races they won't have it.

but no shield one.

Weight lifting.

BS is a bit better than steel, just a bit. It's just a crucible steel.

And I will test blunt vs clothes and armor more. And Dwarven Smokeologist is right, asbestos is a very roman thing and that's the main reason I want to add it. Not for military purposes .

[Medicine Man]

Edit:All dwarfs are immune to fire and magma for some reason.

You have temperature turned off.

No I haven't.It's on and dwarfs seem to be fire and magma immune.

[Deon]

It's only on obsidian dwarves and set up properly. But the game may bug and apply it to other castes as well. I should check it. For now enjoy your magma proof dwarves. Make them to surf on it and make magmafalls instead of waterfalls .

[JagoBallium]

But deon, don't we already make magma falls?