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[KillerClowns]

You haven't toyed with the tissue stylings?  I managed to figure them out working on a project of my own, and I'm gonna offer up some suggestions for the human civs.  Make them more distinctive, rather than the "let your hair grow wild, shave everything else" thing that humans have by default.  Stick them at the end of the civ's entity definition and watch them work.  Purely aesthetic, but its the little things that count.
By default, humans keep their facial hair shaved, and allow their hair to grow indefinitely.

Spoiler: Wesman (click to show/hide)

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[TISSUE_STYLE:HAIR]
[TS_MAINTAIN_LENGTH:25:75]
[TS_PREFERRED_SHAPING:STANDARD_HAIR_SHAPINGS]
[TISSUE_STYLE:MOUSTACHE]
[TS_MAINTAIN_LENGTH:NONE:50]
[TS_PREFERRED_SHAPING:STANDARD_MOUSTACHE_SHAPINGS]
[TISSUE_STYLE:BEARD]
[TS_MAINTAIN_LENGTH:NONE:50]
[TS_PREFERRED_SHAPING:STANDARD_BEARD_SHAPINGS]This will result in Wesman men occasionally growing beards and mustaches; they won't do anything fancy with them, and the longest they'll grow them to is below the dwarvern minimum.  Both genders will also keep their hair short and combed.

Spoiler: Norman (click to show/hide)

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[TISSUE_STYLE:HAIR]
[TS_MAINTAIN_LENGTH:50:NONE]
[TS_PREFERRED_SHAPING:STANDARD_HAIR_SHAPINGS]
[TISSUE_STYLE:SIDEBURNS]
[TS_PREFERRED_SHAPING:STANDARD_SIDEBURNS_SHAPINGS]
[TISSUE_STYLE:MOUSTACHE]
[TS_PREFERRED_SHAPING:STANDARD_MOUSTACHE_SHAPINGS]
[TISSUE_STYLE:BEARD]
[TS_MAINTAIN_LENGTH:50:NONE]
[TS_PREFERRED_SHAPING:STANDARD_BEARD_SHAPINGS]Very close to the Dwarvern style.  Nord men will keep their beards at least medium length, and style them, their sideburns, and their mustaches should they choose to grow them.  Nords will not, however, shave their heads as dwarves sometimes do.

Spoiler: Osman (click to show/hide)

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[TISSUE_STYLE:HAIR]
[TS_MAINTAIN_LENGTH:35:200]
[TS_PREFERRED_SHAPING:STANDARD_HAIR_SHAPINGS]
[TISSUE_STYLE:MOUSTACHE]
[TS_PREFERRED_SHAPING:STANDARD_MOUSTACHE_SHAPINGS]
[TISSUE_STYLE:BEARD]
[TS_MAINTAIN_LENGTH:NONE:50]
[TS_PREFERRED_SHAPING:STANDARD_BEARD_SHAPINGS]The Osmans will refrain from shaving their hair, and are willing to grow it pretty long.  The men will sometimes grow short beards and mustaches of any length (think long Fu Manchus).

It's really rather simple, although I've not experimented much.  [TISSUE_STYLE:(body part)] determines what is being modified,       [TS_PREFERRED_SHAPING:(shaping types)] sets possible shapings (read: styles), and [TS_MAINTAIN_LENGTH:x:y] requires that entity members
keep the defined part's length between X and Y, as per individual preference.

You can do the same for other entities, although I should point out that elves and goblins are physically incapable of styling their hair without some raw editting:

Spoiler: To allow hair styles (click to show/hide)

For hair styling, change

Code: [Select]

[SET_TL_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:HEAD:HAIR]to

Code: [Select]

[SET_TL_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:HEAD:HAIR]
[TISSUE_STYLE_UNIT:HAIR:STANDARD_HAIR_SHAPINGS]
[TSU_NOUN:hair:SINGULAR]You can do the same sort of thing for mustaches, beards and sideburns, by making the obvious changes to the above.  Elves and goblins are, by the way, incapable of growing beards at all; you'd have to add that capacity from scratch.  Note that without the above changes, I'm pretty sure conquered elves and goblins will not adopt the styles of their conquerors; a Dwarf under Wesman rule would keep his hair short, but an elf would not.

Anyways, now that I'm done showing off the shiny things I've figured out, I'd just like to say, keep up the good work! 

[Acanthus117]

Hey, is there a string dump of the styles?

[KillerClowns]

Hey, is there a string dump of the styles?

Extracted and interpreted from the wiki's string dump:

Length:
very long
medium-length
clean-shaven
stubble

Style:
neatly combed
braided
arranged in double braids
tied in a pony tail

Note that short hair/beards/et cetera will always be "neatly combed."

[Acanthus117]

Thanks!

Hey, how do you make certain styles gender-specific?

[KillerClowns]

Thanks!

Hey, how do you make certain styles gender-specific?

AFAIK, you can't, except for the fact that women don't grow facial hair.  Maybe with some cunning work with the raws, you could make men and women have different IDs for their hair, and then have the entities treat female hair and male hair differently.

[EuchreJack]

I believe you make certain styles gender-specific by creating a female and male caste, and adding the hair styles to the caste part of the creature entry instead of the main part.

[Acanthus117]

Thanks!

[Deon]

You haven't toyed with the tissue stylings?  I managed to figure them out working on a project of my own, and I'm gonna offer up some suggestions for the human civs.  Make them more distinctive, rather than the "let your hair grow wild, shave everything else" thing that humans have by default.  Stick them at the end of the civ's entity definition and watch them work.  Purely aesthetic, but its the little things that count.
By default, humans keep their facial hair shaved, and allow their hair to grow indefinitely.

Spoiler: Wesman (click to show/hide)

Code: [Select]

[TISSUE_STYLE:HAIR]
[TS_MAINTAIN_LENGTH:25:75]
[TS_PREFERRED_SHAPING:STANDARD_HAIR_SHAPINGS]
[TISSUE_STYLE:MOUSTACHE]
[TS_MAINTAIN_LENGTH:NONE:50]
[TS_PREFERRED_SHAPING:STANDARD_MOUSTACHE_SHAPINGS]
[TISSUE_STYLE:BEARD]
[TS_MAINTAIN_LENGTH:NONE:50]
[TS_PREFERRED_SHAPING:STANDARD_BEARD_SHAPINGS]This will result in Wesman men occasionally growing beards and mustaches; they won't do anything fancy with them, and the longest they'll grow them to is below the dwarvern minimum.  Both genders will also keep their hair short and combed.

Spoiler: Norman (click to show/hide)

Code: [Select]

[TISSUE_STYLE:HAIR]
[TS_MAINTAIN_LENGTH:50:NONE]
[TS_PREFERRED_SHAPING:STANDARD_HAIR_SHAPINGS]
[TISSUE_STYLE:SIDEBURNS]
[TS_PREFERRED_SHAPING:STANDARD_SIDEBURNS_SHAPINGS]
[TISSUE_STYLE:MOUSTACHE]
[TS_PREFERRED_SHAPING:STANDARD_MOUSTACHE_SHAPINGS]
[TISSUE_STYLE:BEARD]
[TS_MAINTAIN_LENGTH:50:NONE]
[TS_PREFERRED_SHAPING:STANDARD_BEARD_SHAPINGS]Very close to the Dwarvern style.  Nord men will keep their beards at least medium length, and style them, their sideburns, and their mustaches should they choose to grow them.  Nords will not, however, shave their heads as dwarves sometimes do.

Spoiler: Osman (click to show/hide)

Code: [Select]

[TISSUE_STYLE:HAIR]
[TS_MAINTAIN_LENGTH:35:200]
[TS_PREFERRED_SHAPING:STANDARD_HAIR_SHAPINGS]
[TISSUE_STYLE:MOUSTACHE]
[TS_PREFERRED_SHAPING:STANDARD_MOUSTACHE_SHAPINGS]
[TISSUE_STYLE:BEARD]
[TS_MAINTAIN_LENGTH:NONE:50]
[TS_PREFERRED_SHAPING:STANDARD_BEARD_SHAPINGS]The Osmans will refrain from shaving their hair, and are willing to grow it pretty long.  The men will sometimes grow short beards and mustaches of any length (think long Fu Manchus).

It's really rather simple, although I've not experimented much.  [TISSUE_STYLE:(body part)] determines what is being modified,       [TS_PREFERRED_SHAPING:(shaping types)] sets possible shapings (read: styles), and [TS_MAINTAIN_LENGTH:x:y] requires that entity members
keep the defined part's length between X and Y, as per individual preference.

You can do the same for other entities, although I should point out that elves and goblins are physically incapable of styling their hair without some raw editting:

Spoiler: To allow hair styles (click to show/hide)

For hair styling, change

Code: [Select]

[SET_TL_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:HEAD:HAIR]to

Code: [Select]

[SET_TL_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:HEAD:HAIR]
[TISSUE_STYLE_UNIT:HAIR:STANDARD_HAIR_SHAPINGS]
[TSU_NOUN:hair:SINGULAR]You can do the same sort of thing for mustaches, beards and sideburns, by making the obvious changes to the above.  Elves and goblins are, by the way, incapable of growing beards at all; you'd have to add that capacity from scratch.  Note that without the above changes, I'm pretty sure conquered elves and goblins will not adopt the styles of their conquerors; a Dwarf under Wesman rule would keep his hair short, but an elf would not.

Anyways, now that I'm done showing off the shiny things I've figured out, I'd just like to say, keep up the good work! 

Hey, thank you for this! I was going to toy around with the hairstyles but haven't made myself to do it yet . The idea is really nice.

Hey, how do you make certain styles gender-specific?

You can only make gender-specific bodies and adjustments to stats. I've used it in Wasteland mod and it works nicely. I think I will do the same here too. I want to make men stronger and women more agile.

[asfghn]

Hey Deon, awesome mod! I might have registered at the Bay12 forums just to tell you this, and a few other things to follow.

First off, if you're still taking down weird names for magical items (as I was reading in the first, what, five pages of the thread? Haven't had time to read the rest :c), I nominate my name for something strange / odd / game-breaking. c;

Secondly, not sure if this has been mentioned yet or not or if you're aware of it -- since, as I said, I haven't read through the whole thread yet -- but it looks like animals can contract your diseases, too! The female half of my breeding cat pair that I brought along 'pon embarking contracted black lung (I believe) shortly after I arrived -- she's been stumbling around bleeding all over everything for about a year now, and her lungs and heart just turned yellow. As an animal lover, I'm not sure whether to feel devastated about this, or just revel in its SHEER AWESOME that MAN AWESOME DISEASES MAN MAN MAN LOVE.

If it's at all possible, there ought to be some sort of hospital mod for critters. 3: My heart goes out to my poor dizzy kitty (when I'm not, you know, pumping my fist in the air over how AWESOME IT IS THAT MY CAT CONTRACTED BLACK LUNG THIS IS THE BEST MOD EVER YEAAAHHHH)

Seriously though, this is the greatest work of modding I've seen from the comm so far! 8D It's really perked up DF for me and put life back into it again. Thank yooouuuu for that though my social life is suffering again.

[Deon]

Wow, that's quite a praise (and maybe too much, but I am still happy to read it ).

I think I've got enough features to release 1.4 soon.
I will add hair style tweaks (thank you KillerClowns), slow-moving fungi-like critters which spread sleeping gas around them, man/woman distinct bodies and stats; leechs, cholerae and minnows by Stolide; some additional items for the ratmen civ (just because  I like them ).

Also I liked the idea of probability of "hero" dwarves being born, in the same way as I use mutations in the future of Wasteland mod (although the Hero idea came first to Arkenstone), so you will have a very low chance to get Uberdwarves born.

Also I thought that while pets are not that important, some more would be cool. So I will add boars, turkeys, chickens and ferrets (vermin hunter too).

[Acanthus117]

Yay! FUNGUS CREATURES FTW

[Deon]

Yeah, I liked the idea, thank you Acanthus.

[Acanthus117]

ANYTIME BRO DEON MAN



hey, will you also modify the hairstyles of Elves?

[Deon]

Sure, I will mod all races to follow the style/body tweaks.

[Acanthus117]

Hey, can you have multiple styles per entry, like PONY_TAIL and BRAID in one entry?