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[RaidSoft]

Am I the only one that is getting what looks like animals that now trample grass? They didn't use to but since I got the [0.31.25] Genesis Mod [3.25c] - Phoebus release they seem to remove the grass on Every tile they step on, so they are just clearing out the grass insanely fast..

Could you have activated that they trample the grass instead of deactivated it at some point?

[Gokajern]

Aren't they grazing? as far as I know certain animals have to graze in order to survive now. If you create a pen/pasture in the zones menu and assign a few grazing animals to it, you'll notice patches of sand/soil after a while or at least that's what I've noticed.

[Deon]

GRASSTRAMPLE:0 should not trample grass at all. Are you sure the grass is not dead/dying and they don't eat it in one try?

Also I have more creatures in the works (to populate savage and evil areas).

Savage are bears and pumas in chitinous exoskeleton with sharp claws. I didn't come up with a name yet.

Evil are... wamblers. Not the fluffy wambler type.

They are small but their teeth are sharp so they can bite through clothing and low-grade armor. And they are many.

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Also, a new megabeast.

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 An ancient wambler. A large hairy ball with a large maw which opens whenever someone comes close. It's filled with huge sharp teeth, so it can bite a cow in half.

[Jeoshua]

  EEP!

That movie scared me so bad when I was a kid, and looking back...

I have no idea why.

[Deon]

Yeah it scared me too when I was a kid. I watched all parts though... It was a double-edged feeling: a fear and a desire to know what happens . So I watched it nervously but with a great pleasure. I kinda miss that feeling these days .

[RaidSoft]

they seemed to go through grass WAY too fast to just be grazing, it was like literally every single tile they stepped on got cleared out instantly even if they were just running over it, a horse and a bull were clearing out a 300~ tile pen with just the two of them, they weren't doing this in some patch earlier (and yes this was after grazing was put in)

[TomiTapio]

Thanks TomiTapio, gonna try it out now! (bored with my Terrifying biome spawning skeletal turkies and donkies, got over 80 turks dead :\)

Aw carp, turkey donkey horse cow goat giantolm also default 50 freq, too common.

Slap these in if you're already using my bonfire-having raws:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8967397/Genesis_3.25c_Ironhand_Tomis_incl_Bonfires_Apr19.zip

But of course my dwarves are not moving the illithids to the cage...

"Get prisoner from cage" is done by by hauling a cage to the prisoner's current cage, and putting prisoner into the new cage for transport. "Put prisoner in cage"... well he's already in a cage.

But like I said up there, it worked with goblins, I would usually get all my prisoners in a single cage, for some reason I can't in this mod.

Edit: Then I'd guess something is different in dwarf and/or goblin attributes and skills in Genesis. "Goblin too dangerous to handle error".

I like to delete the grasstrample tag instead for putting it to zero.

[Gokajern]

But of course my dwarves are not moving the illithids to the cage...

"Get prisoner from cage" is done by by hauling a cage to the prisoner's current cage, and putting prisoner into the new cage for transport. "Put prisoner in cage"... well he's already in a cage.

But like I said up there, it worked with goblins, I would usually get all my prisoners in a single cage, for some reason I can't in this mod.

[asfghn]

pumas in chitinous exoskeleton with sharp claws

Catamantis? Get it—catamount (another name for puma, mountain lion, cougar, all the same thing) + mantis (as in praying)? *shot*

Whatever you wind up calling them, they sound really cool. I am totally going to cheat and make them [COMMON_DOMESTIC] so I can embark with them.

RaidSoft, I actually had that problem too. I'm not sure how (or if) I fixed it, but I haven't been noticing it anymore, so... I am not sure what to tell you, actually! It seemed to only occur where grass wasn't dense, so perhaps that had something to do with it?

And Tomi, you said to update Goldplated mine own self would take about five minutes in WinMerge—would that be just copying over the graphics and going through all the raws and merging for the creature tiles? 
I am slowly but surely assimilating all knowledge gleaned from you and Deon to become a supermodder! ...or at least one somewhat less pathetic.

[Jeoshua]

Actually, it wouldn't require that at all, as far as I know.  Plants, trees, grasses and the like would require some looking over, but creatures would use the tiles which are specified in the graphics folder.  It doesn't matter if you use Phoebus', Ironhand's, Toady's, or the Goldplated mod.  If the files in the Graphics folder are set correctly, the pictures for all the creatures will just... work...

You gotta make sure you don't double any tags in this graphics files tho.  I believe that DF uses the first picture it finds a match for.  I might be thinking of how Stonesense works with it's tiles, tho.  Either way, doubling tags will make the mod not work as intended.

[TomiTapio]

Cata- prefix means "all" so Catamantis might mean "the mantis of all mantises". I made a shell-dropping  ShellBear back in DF 40d. So like giant armadillo.
"Demonic turtleman" would fight well and have thick shell and poor dodging skill. (ehh T.M.N.T.)
Also one could make "demon ogre" "reptile ogre" big enemies but they might be stronger than semimegas... I like ogres!

Everyone: which beast would be slower than a dwarf or human, but larger than a sheep, and appear in herds, and be weak in combat?

And Tomi, you said to update Goldplated mine own self would take about five minutes in WinMerge—would that be just copying over the graphics and going through all the raws and merging for the creature tiles? 

What I would do is take current Genesis, use WinMerge to copy all the tile-number things from Deon's Genesis Goldplated to current version. And in the init file tell DF to use
not [GRAPHICS_FONT:ironhand_text.png] [GRAPHICS_FULLFONT:ironhand_text.png] but the goldplated file.

Seems like merging all the "[*****TILE:**]" lines would take 15-30 mins, they're quite plentiful, all plants, trees, minerals. Probably workshops tile-piles would look wonky but I wouldn't mind.

I use Crimson Editor 3.70 (2004), has handy "remember which files i had open" and "find string in all those subfolders". (Successor Emerald Editor BEGS ADMIN RIGHTS in Win7.)
CNET is trustworthy download location: http://download.cnet.com/Crimson-Editor/3000-2352_4-10031858.html

Private tuning: made all dorf castes have the same agility.

[Jeoshua]

So make them, and make them Semi- or Megabeasts.

[SirAaronIII]

Cata- prefix means "all" so Catamantis might mean "the mantis of all mantises"...

So like catatonic? Guess you learn something new every day.
And "mantis of mantises/mantii/more than 1 mantis" doesn't sound that bad.

[TomiTapio]

So make them, and make them Semi- or Megabeasts.

No point in making more megas, since they come super rarely. You seen a dragon lately ingame? Semis might be fun for adventurers, but I don't adventure.
Oh the other hand... a game variant with no hostile civs, only ultramegabeasts (10x size colossus & company) might be viable.

And "mantis of mantises/mantii/more than 1 mantis" doesn't sound that bad.

Might be fun, a mantis megabeast. Or colossus-sized ant, or spider. I wonder if a 20-legged beast would have great defense from enemies hitting the legs and not vital organs. Probably would die of blood loss; so it shouldn't bleed or feel pain if want the leg-count to be a defense.

Having fun:

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new fort, standardised dorf speeds! region19, high in minerals, 150-200 naturalcavesize.
3x2, taiga/tundra for a change. Shall use caves' water.
7 bulldogs, much booze, 2 axes 4 picks 40 leather.

Armormyths, Tosidlathon.
cave collapse on -43.
what, flies in the freezgin taiga?
kaolinite, magnetite. caves1 on -15 to -19. Make home there. Tetra, sphalerite.
limonite, zillions of gems in caves (oh it's the blue crystals for reactions).
See muskoxen. Bah, scorpions where plan the make home.
Deer and helmet snakes.
Summer 1.
Gargoyle trouble, good thing we have bulldogs.
Migrants to 12.
badgers and red foxes at the same time!
Ezras. sell mech.
Autumn 1. Farming has started atop cave grass.
Damn, no water in our cave! Must dig deeper.
caves2, -26 to -29. More tetra.
sneaker emptied a purchased animal cage! (maybe my B.M. new creature)

[asfghn]

Quick question, Tomi—probably a really easy fix that I'm just not seeing (having gone cross-eyed by now trying to figure it out), but your faedogs aren't showing up on embark. Is there a reason for this that I missed in the thread somewhere?

But huh, I didn't know that about the prefix 'cata-'! I was just thinking catamount, as in the alternate name for puma/cougar/mountain lion. You really do learn something new every day!