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[TomiTapio]

Oh yeah! Archery range go! Now weaklings can train goblin and unicorn shooting. Strong lasses have three chainmails and sword and shield.
Remember to assign bolts to archer squad. And create leather quivers (they are used automatically).

[TomiTapio]

Okay, I thought about that, and for 3.0 we need more races.
I think we need some races which siege right away but are not too strong to allow you to fight them. It will add some adrenaline and action.
But I want to hear which kind of a race you want to see attacking you first. Any suggestions on the flavor?

I made Beastmen, based on your lizardmen, back in 40d18. Some worlds they were friendly, some hostile, which was Great!
They had wooden clubs and spears, no metalworking I think. No bows, that's too cowardly. One throwing spear, then close in for some throat biting.
I'll paste them here.

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[ENTITY:SAVANNA]
   [INDIV_CONTROLLABLE]
   [CREATURE:BEASTMAN] -----------------40d ENTITY!!!!-------------------
   [TRANSLATION:ELF] --verify
   [WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_AXE_BATTLE]
   [WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_HAMMER_WAR]
   [WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SWORD_SHORT]
   [WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SPEAR]
   [WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SWORD_LONG]
   [WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_BLOWGUN]
      [AMMO:ITEM_AMMO_BLOWDARTS]
   [WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_DAGGER_LARGE]
   [WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SCOURGE]
   [WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_FLAIL]
   [WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_CLUB]
   [WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_CLUB_SPIKED]
   [ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_LEATHER:COMMON]
   [ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_TUNIC:UNCOMMON]
   [ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_VEST:UNCOMMON]
   [PANTS:ITEM_PANTS_LOINCLOTH:COMMON]
   [SHIELD:ITEM_SHIELD_BUCKLER:UNCOMMON]
   [TOY:ITEM_TOY_AXE]
   [TOY:ITEM_TOY_HAMMER]
   [INSTRUMENT:ITEM_INSTRUMENT_DRUM]
   [CLOTHING]
   [CURRENCY:COPPER:1]
   [CURRENCY:SILVER:7]
   [CURRENCY:GOLD:25]
   [SELECT_SYMBOL:ALL:VIOLENT]
   [SELECT_SYMBOL:ALL:OLD]
   [SELECT_SYMBOL:ALL:LEADER]
   [SELECT_SYMBOL:ALL:MYTHIC]
   [SELECT_SYMBOL:ALL:NAME_TUNDRA]
   [SELECT_SYMBOL:WAR:NAME_WAR]
   [SUBSELECT_SYMBOL:WAR:VIOLENT]
   [SELECT_SYMBOL:BATTLE:NAME_BATTLE]
   [SUBSELECT_SYMBOL:BATTLE:VIOLENT]
   [SELECT_SYMBOL:SIEGE:NAME_SIEGE]
   [SUBSELECT_SYMBOL:SIEGE:VIOLENT]
   [SELECT_SYMBOL:REMAINING:EVIL]
   [CULL_SYMBOL:ALL:DOMESTIC]
   [CULL_SYMBOL:ALL:FLOWERY]
   [CULL_SYMBOL:ALL:PEACE]
   [CULL_SYMBOL:ALL:NEGATOR]
   [RIVER_PRODUCTS]
   [OUTDOOR_FARMING] --dont live on hunting and fishing only
   [USE_GOOD_WOOD]
   [USE_GOOD_PLANTS]
   [USE_GOOD_ANIMALS]
   [USE_ANIMAL_PRODUCTS]
   [COMMON_DOMESTIC_PACK]
   [COMMON_DOMESTIC_PET]
   [MINOR_METAL]
   --not woodpref nor stonepref, should steal weaps from other civs, no metal industry they have.
   [USE_MISC_PROCESSED_WOOD_PRODUCTS]
   [EQUIPMENT_IMPROVEMENTS]
   [SPHERE_ALIGNMENT:WAR:340]
   [SPHERE_ALIGNMENT:PLANTS:90]
   [SPHERE_ALIGNMENT:ANIMALS:384]
   [SPHERE_ALIGNMENT:TREES:90]
   [ART_FACET_MODIFIER:GOOD:50]
   [ART_FACET_MODIFIER:EVIL:150]
   [FRIENDLY_COLOR:5:0:1]
   [DEFAULT_SITE_TYPE:TREE_CITY]
   [LIKES_SITE:TREE_CITY]
   [LIKES_SITE:RUIN]
   [TOLERATES_SITE:TREE_CITY]
   [TOLERATES_SITE:RUIN]
   [TOLERATES_SITE:CITY]
   [TOLERATES_SITE:CAVE]
   [CAN_HAVE_MILITARY_SITE_LEADER]
   [START_BIOME:ANY_TEMPERATE]
   [BIOME_SUPPORT:ANY_TEMPERATE:1]
   [BIOME_SUPPORT:FOREST_TAIGA:2]
   [BIOME_SUPPORT:FOREST_TEMPERATE_CONIFER:2]
   [BIOME_SUPPORT:FOREST_TEMPERATE_BROADLEAF:3]
   [BIOME_SUPPORT:GRASSLAND_TEMPERATE:3]
   [BIOME_SUPPORT:SAVANNA_TEMPERATE:3]
   [BIOME_SUPPORT:SHRUBLAND_TEMPERATE:3]
   [BIOME_SUPPORT:FOREST_TROPICAL_MOIST_BROADLEAF:2]
   [BIOME_SUPPORT:MOUNTAIN:1]
   [PROGRESS_TRIGGER_POPULATION:1]
   [PROGRESS_TRIGGER_PRODUCTION:2]
   [PROGRESS_TRIGGER_TRADE:1]
   [ACTIVE_SEASON:SPRING]
   [ACTIVE_SEASON:SUMMER]
   [ACTIVE_SEASON:AUTUMN]
   [ACTIVE_SEASON:WINTER]
   [DIPLOMAT]
   [DIPLOMAT_BODYGUARDS]
   [MERCHANT_BODYGUARDS]
   [MAX_STARTING_CIV_NUMBER:100]
   [START_GROUP_NUMBER:10]
   [MAX_POP_NUMBER:2000]
   [MAX_SITE_POP_NUMBER:50]
   [RELIGION:REGIONAL_FORCE]
   [BEAST_HUNTER]
   [SCOUT]
   [AMBUSHER] --beware!!
   [PERMITTED_JOB:CARPENTER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:WOODCUTTER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:ANIMAL_CARETAKER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:ANIMAL_TRAINER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:HUNTER] --a most honorable profession. throwing spear mostly.
   [PERMITTED_JOB:TRAPPER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:ANIMAL_DISSECTOR] --it's fun, rabbit bits.
   [PERMITTED_JOB:WOODCRAFTER] --wooden clubs, hammock beds
   [PERMITTED_JOB:LEATHERWORKER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:BONE_CARVER] --much jewelry ensues.
   [PERMITTED_JOB:CLOTHIER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:FISHERMAN]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:FISH_CLEANER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:PLANTER]
   -- no cooking, eat raw.
   [PERMITTED_JOB:BUTCHER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:TANNER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:DYER] --sometimes they put dyes on their fur.
   [PERMITTED_JOB:HERBALIST]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:BREWER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:TRADER] --you want some gator skins, dorf? and stop staring at my tail!
   [ETHIC:KILL_ENTITY_MEMBER:JUSTIFIED_IF_GOOD_REASON]
   [ETHIC:KILL_NEUTRAL:ACCEPTABLE]
   [ETHIC:KILL_ENEMY:ACCEPTABLE]
   [ETHIC:KILL_ANIMAL:ACCEPTABLE]
   [ETHIC:KILL_PLANT:ACCEPTABLE]
   [ETHIC:TREASON:PUNISH_EXILE]
   [ETHIC:OATH_BREAKING:PUNISH_SERIOUS]
   [ETHIC:LYING:PERSONAL_MATTER]
   [ETHIC:VANDALISM:PERSONAL_MATTER]
   [ETHIC:TRESPASSING:PERSONAL_MATTER]
   [ETHIC:THEFT:PERSONAL_MATTER]
   [ETHIC:ASSAULT:PERSONAL_MATTER]
   [ETHIC:TORTURE_AS_EXAMPLE:ACCEPTABLE]
   [ETHIC:TORTURE_FOR_INFORMATION:ACCEPTABLE]
   [ETHIC:TORTURE_FOR_FUN:UNTHINKABLE]
   [ETHIC:TORTURE_ANIMALS:UNTHINKABLE]
   [ETHIC:SLAVERY:UNTHINKABLE]
   [ETHIC:EAT_SAPIENT_OTHER:UNTHINKABLE]
   [ETHIC:EAT_SAPIENT_KILL:UNTHINKABLE]
   [ETHIC:MAKE_TROPHY_SAME_RACE:UNTHINKABLE]
   [ETHIC:MAKE_TROPHY_SAPIENT:UNTHINKABLE]
   [ETHIC:MAKE_TROPHY_ANIMAL:UNTHINKABLE]

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[CREATURE:BEASTMAN]
   [NAME:beastman:beastmen:beastman] --not the same as orc. more of a wolfman/hyenaman. Not a bullheaded chaos-beastman. less evil than gob, liz or orc.
   [TILE:'b'][COLOR:2:0:0]
   [LARGE_ROAMING][LARGE_PREDATOR][FREQUENCY:20]
   [GENPOWER:3]
   [POPULATION_NUMBER:10:20]
   [CLUSTER_NUMBER:2:8]
   [INTELLIGENT][CANOPENDOORS]
   [CAN_LEARN][CAN_CIV][LIKES_FIGHTING][UTTERANCES]
   [CARNIVORE]
   [PREFSTRING:canine features]
   [PREFSTRING:hairy bodies]
   [PREFSTRING:tribal customs]
   [BODY:HUMANOID:TAIL:2EYES:NOSE:2LUNGS:HEART:GUTS:ORGANS:HUMANOID_JOINTS:THROAT:NECK:SPINE:BRAIN:4FINGERS:4TOES:MOUTH]
   [SIZE:7][DAMBLOCK:1][SPEED:830] -1.1x speed
   [MAXAGE:20:50]
   [ATTACK:MAIN:BYTYPE:GRASP:punch:punches:1:2:BLUDGEON][ATTACKFLAG_WITH]
   [ATTACK:MAIN:BYTYPE:MOUTH:bite:bites:1:4:GORE][ATTACKFLAG_CANLATCH]
   [CHILD:4][BABY:1]
   --FEATURE_ATTACK_GROUP
   [EQUIPS]
   [HAMMERMAN_NAME:basher:bashers]
   [MACEMAN_NAME:crusher:crushers]
   [SWORDSMAN_NAME:cutter:cutters]
   [FAT:2]
   [ALL_ACTIVE]
   [BIOME:ANY_TEMPERATE] --to complement lizardmen.
   [STANDARD_FLESH]
   [SWIMS_LEARNED][SWIM_SPEED:2700]
   [HOMEOTHERM:10040]
   [LAYERING:115]
   [PERSONALITY:ANGER:10:75:100]
   [PERSONALITY:IMMODERATION:50:75:100]
   [PERSONALITY:EXCITEMENT_SEEKING:30:80:100]
   [PERSONALITY:IMAGINATION:0:10:29]
   [PERSONALITY:MODESTY:0:20:50]
   [PERSONALITY:ORDERLINESS:0:30:70]
   [PERSONALITY:VULNERABILITY:0:35:75]
   [PERSONALITY:CAUTIOUSNESS:0:15:65]

[ghostxxx]

Hi Deon!

I love your mod, and I'm itching to play it but I was wondering if it's possible to modify to work with Phoebus graphic set?

Could you point me to a tutorial on how I can do that?

I don't mean to knock on Ironhand's graphic set, but I'm not a big fan of it.

Thanks!

[Tarran]

...Glass beds Deon?

They had better be smoothed, else they would be really, REALLY uncomfortable.

Anyway, quick updates. Kind of nice, though fortresses are quickly outdated.

[Roses]

Just saying love the mod, and for the person talking about merging Genesis and CF it's not that hard to do with WinMerge. I lot of the stuff they actually have in common. I was able to get a no error read-out in about 20 minutes of work combining them. Of course this was back with 2.8 and 2.1 respectively but I can't imagine it is much harder now.

[bobbens]

Just saying love the mod, and for the person talking about merging Genesis and CF it's not that hard to do with WinMerge. I lot of the stuff they actually have in common. I was able to get a no error read-out in about 20 minutes of work combining them. Of course this was back with 2.8 and 2.1 respectively but I can't imagine it is much harder now.

I guess I don't feel comfortable enough with modding dwarf fortress. With the amount of hours I spend already playing it would be evil to spend twice as much modding too.

On a side note, I'm having a really hard time creating a decent world. The worlds seem to be either dominantly good or dominantly evil.  If they're dominantly evil, usually there's very few illithid and the dwarves, and such are extinct. If it's good usually only snakemen survive. Illithid seem to always get massacred (only had one world have them). Anyone have news on that?

[John Keel]

Okay, I thought about that, and for 3.0 we need more races.

I think we need some races which siege right away but are not too strong to allow you to fight them. It will add some adrenaline and action.

The main thought is that if they had lots of clothes/armor, they would litter the whole map with garbage, and that is not good. Thus they should have natural weapons and armor. Some insectoid race could work, and maybe there could be more than one. Scarabs for desert, scythers for forests, termites for plains. Or some animalmen, like molemen with sharp claws or werewolves with fangs.

But I want to hear which kind of a race you want to see attacking you first. Any suggestions on the flavor?

If they're going to siege early on, I wouldn't give them natural armor, as asking that the player have decent quality metal very early is very annoying. Maybe extra limbs with claws of a weak material, so that even leather armor could stop them from doing much damage, and crossbows could stop them from reaching you, but without either your dwarves would be shredded. That way, it would force some military without forcing expensive embark items or getting metalsmithing up and running in the first year.

[Prepaid Lenin]

Illithids sieged my fortress and brought a bunch of tadpoles with them.

That promptly airdrowned or dived into murky pools.

[Tarran]

Deon, 31.11 is out. And from what I've read the Skill_Rates function was changed. But that's all I know about it.

[Prepaid Lenin]

One of my soldiers was bitten by a mind flayer and was poisoned, besides having a foot cut off she has been asleep since the battle (about a year). Is this a bug related to healthcare or is it the poison that causes the endless sleep?

[TomiTapio]

If they're going to siege early on, I wouldn't give them natural armor, as asking that the player have decent quality metal very early is very annoying. Maybe extra limbs with claws of a weak material, so that even leather armor could stop them from doing much damage, and crossbows could stop them from reaching you, but without either your dwarves would be shredded. That way, it would force some military without forcing expensive embark items or getting metalsmithing up and running in the first year.

Hmm... if it's no-armor no-weapon civ, maybe... high speed? Intelligent wolves or high-speed kangaroos? I'd try with a speed:700 beast with bite & horn stab. Waitaminute, is that the specs for an unicorn? I know there was a Centaur civ in older 40dXX Genesis.

Leather armor doesn't protect the throat. No armor in DF protects throat.
Now to roll a new fort with militia stage 1: "wooden crossbows and wooden bolts". And 300 FPS. Bowyer skill just got valuable with .31.11.

Edit: hunting with wooden bolts (stack of 25 valued at 25-300 €). Pelicans and swans are great for easy hunting! And then there was 2 alligators vs. hunter. A child mooded and made a goethite mug.

[Medicine Man]

Hey Deon (or anybody else) is there still some cannibal races?

[Daywalkah]

If they're going to siege early on, I wouldn't give them natural armor, as asking that the player have decent quality metal very early is very annoying. Maybe extra limbs with claws of a weak material, so that even leather armor could stop them from doing much damage, and crossbows could stop them from reaching you, but without either your dwarves would be shredded. That way, it would force some military without forcing expensive embark items or getting metalsmithing up and running in the first year.

Hmm... if it's no-armor no-weapon civ, maybe... high speed? Intelligent wolves or high-speed kangaroos? I'd try with a speed:700 beast with bite & horn stab. Waitaminute, is that the specs for an unicorn? I know there was a Centaur civ in older 40dXX Genesis.

Leather armor doesn't protect the throat. No armor in DF protects throat.
Now to roll a new fort with militia stage 1: "wooden crossbows and wooden bolts". And 300 FPS. Bowyer skill just got valuable with .31.11.

piecewise created centaurs for the new version that is currently in my possession. They are fast and large, you could just take weapons and armor away from them. They are already enough of a challenge anyway.

[Medicine Man]

Every time I go to butcher a Semi-megabeast or Megabeast it says you are not that hungry.

[Tarran]

Every time I go to butcher a Semi-megabeast or Megabeast it says you are not that hungry.

That's a bug, it's not Genesis's fault. Report it to the bugtracker.