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[Kandryn]

I used to have fun seeing a whole fortress going in an infinite chain of miserable/stark raving mad/berzerk dwarves but now i find this quite boring and time wasting.
A single military dwarf dying during an ambush (after killing 4 gobelins, which is quite heroic) just got my fortress taken to oblivion because of a miserable chain among his friends. I could have done a "death corridor" full of traps to take care of those gobelins without losing any dwarf but...hey, what's the point of having an army then...

So that's it, I'm looking for a mod or just an advice on how to remove that moral malus from the game.

Thanks in advance.

[nenjin]

I don't know how about modding it out....but some things that increase friendship between dwarves, therefore increasing tantrum chain sizes, that you can avoid to reduce how connected your fortress is.

1 - No meeting halls. Without meeting halls dwarves spend their off hours alone. They don't hold parties and they don't socialize. If they don't socialize they don't make friends. If they don't make friends, no tantrum spirals.

2 - Avoid large work parties or squads. Miners and soldiers become friends faster because they tend to spend a lot of time in each other's company. While it slows down mining and training a lot, only doing one or two dwarves at a time will cut back on how socially connected to each other these work groups become.

3 - Gated communities. The burrows (when they're working right) make it possible to isolate your dwarves from each other. Divide your fortress into multiple burrows with their own food and supply stocks and restrict movement. Dwarves that can't meet can't become friends.

4 - Rotate everyone out as a hunter at some point. Hunting is the least social job of all of them. If you see a group of people starting to become too connected....send them out for a little solitude and reflection time in the wilds.

As an aside....I rarely if ever get tantrum chains. Unless the overall balance of happiness vs. unhappiness changed in 2010...you have to be doing multiple things wrong to get people unhappy enough to tantrum spiral. Or bad things have to be happening back to back to back. Perhaps you're just not focusing on happiness generators (i.e. high quality rooms and high quality furniture to admire, pets) enough to stave off tantrum spirals?

[Geti]

surely it would be better to keep everyone happy than hamper friendships, no?

[nenjin]

It does sound like an interesting experiment though, seeing how disconnected and isolated you can make a fortress, and to what pop level you can sustain that.

It's like the East/West German of the DF world.

And yes, socializing is actually one thing that can help prevent tantrum spirals...because friends are sources of happiness. But that's obviously not helping enough if the nature of their relationships causes them to tantrum anyways when bad stuff happens.

[Zangi]

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This effects how easily they get mad or sad...
[PERSONALITY:ANGER:0:25:60]
[PERSONALITY:CHEERFULNESS:40:75:100]
[PERSONALITY:DEPRESSION:0:25:60]
[PERSONALITY:VULNERABILITY:0:25:60]
[PERSONALITY:ANXIETY:0:25:60]
[PERSONALITY:SELF_EFFICACY:40:40:90]

These effect how likely Dwarves are to befriend each other... (I think)
[PERSONALITY:GREGARIOUSNESS:0:10:60]
[PERSONALITY:TRUST:0:10:60]
[PERSONALITY:FRIENDLINESS:0:25:60]
[PERSONALITY:SELF_CONSCIOUSNESS:0:30:60]
This is what I had back in 40d to lower tantrum spiral effects.  It can be further modified for more tantrum mitigation.


If you want them to be friends, but to mitigate tantrums, you can use this.

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[PERSONALITY:ANGER:0:25:60]
[PERSONALITY:CHEERFULNESS:40:75:100]
[PERSONALITY:DEPRESSION:0:25:60]
[PERSONALITY:VULNERABILITY:0:25:60]
[PERSONALITY:ANXIETY:0:25:60]
[PERSONALITY:SELF_EFFICACY:40:75:100]
For even more tantrum mitigation...

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[PERSONALITY:ANGER:0:20:40]
[PERSONALITY:CHEERFULNESS:60:80:100]
[PERSONALITY:DEPRESSION:0:20:40]
[PERSONALITY:VULNERABILITY:0:20:40]
[PERSONALITY:ANXIETY:0:20:40]
[PERSONALITY:SELF_EFFICACY:60:80:100]

EDIT: There are some that are new and I'm not sure of how it would work...

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[PERSONALITY:EMOTIONALITY:0:50:100]
[MENT_ATT_RANGE:SOCIAL_AWARENESS:450:950:1150:1250:1350:1550:2250]       +
[MENT_ATT_RANGE:WILLPOWER:1250:1500:1750:2000:2500:3000:5000]            +++
Willpower... might be good to have. 
The emotionality... supposedly has something to do with understanding one's own emotion...  at least thats what the magmawiki says...  might be a good thing?

The social_awareness, helps with making friends?
Empathy and Sympathy might fall under social_awareness too...

EDIT 2: Memory might determine how long a Dwarf remembers both good and bad things?

[Kandryn]

In which file do you find this?
There's the dwarf description in Raw/Object/creature_standard.txt but i can't find those lines or anything related to dwarf behavior.

[Zangi]

In which file do you find this?
There's the dwarf description in Raw/Object/creature_standard.txt but i can't find those lines or anything related to dwarf behavior.

You have to edit them in yourself, but, if you want, I can figure a way to upload the raw file with those changes.

Its best that you put them in after you gen the world, it has the potential of heavily unbalancing worldgen, causing Dwarven dominance... and possibly the destruction of both Elven and Goblin-kind.

It gets more complicated if you have other sorts of mods too.

[ungulateman]

[NOTHOUGHT] makes dwarves eternally content IIRC.

[darkflagrance]

[NOTHOUGHT] makes dwarves eternally content IIRC.

Yeah, I've been currently using this. However, it also makes anything of quality you do meaningless, and may cause nobles to issue more mandates (at least in 40d).