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Would you deny others the freedom to enjoy planning waste disposal?

Of course not. Freedom is great.
- 82 (31.4%)
Heavens no! I would never deny others.
- 10 (3.8%)
People should be free to enjoy what they like. I'd never oppose it.
- 29 (11.1%)
I love denying others basic rights so I can be lazy and not edit my .init file.
- 55 (21.1%)
What kind of rigged poll is this? MSNBC has fairer. Also, I am pro-filth.
- 85 (32.6%)

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Author Topic: Nothing Sacred Left: Add Sewage Already  (Read 57990 times)

Jordrake

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Re: Nothing Sacred Left: Add Sewage Already
« Reply #285 on: June 01, 2010, 08:26:38 am »

Now all you have to do is make anyone who voted for the bottom two vanish, and you will have become Comrad Stalin.

actually, I'd say hitler jr. Stalin only had the people with influence who opposed him killed.

It had to happen.  Hitler brought up in a discussion about poop.

Godwin's law held for a discussion about crap in a video game. Amazing.
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My insignificant thoughts on the matter: Dwarf Fortress is already close to replicating various functions of life, waste may as well be one of them. If When it gets to the level that it properly simulates food giving dwarves chemical energy, Toady may as well include what happens to the leftovers. Besides, if you can turn it off in the init, I don't see the problem.
Also he should probably try to prevent modders from *ahem* utilising the material. The way the OP outlines it seems perfectly reasonable to me.
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Re: Nothing Sacred Left: Add Sewage Already
« Reply #286 on: June 01, 2010, 09:20:53 pm »

Modders WILL find a way to utilize it if any hint of the addition is in the RAWs, probably immaturely, but those who do will be a minority and probably easily ignored. If they aren't ignored, well, trolls + food = more trolls = more poop jokes and mods = more WTFBBQSEWERZRBADANDSTUFF!!111(half trolls, anyone?) = even more trolls, ad nauseam.
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Re: Nothing Sacred Left: Add Sewage Already
« Reply #287 on: June 01, 2010, 10:15:26 pm »

I really hope we will be able to mod poop out easily enough. The last thing I need is to give my dwarves yet another excuse to cancel that 'make raw clear glass' task I need done to keep my mooded weaponsmith from going mad.

But that's just me.
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Re: Nothing Sacred Left: Add Sewage Already
« Reply #288 on: June 01, 2010, 10:47:59 pm »

I really hope we will be able to mod poop out easily enough. The last thing I need is to give my dwarves yet another excuse to cancel that 'make raw clear glass' task I need done to keep my mooded weaponsmith from going mad.

But that's just me.

IT WOULD BE AN INIT THING.

And yes, people could mod it. But the can currently mod the game to be even worse. See the Goblins mod or it's ilk.
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Re: Nothing Sacred Left: Add Sewage Already
« Reply #289 on: June 02, 2010, 07:27:09 am »

I agree entirely with Deathworks
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Re: Nothing Sacred Left: Add Sewage Already
« Reply #290 on: June 02, 2010, 11:10:40 am »

Modders WILL find a way to utilize it if any hint of the addition is in the RAWs, probably immaturely, but those who do will be a minority and probably easily ignored. If they aren't ignored, well, trolls + food = more trolls = more poop jokes and mods = more WTFBBQSEWERZRBADANDSTUFF!!111(half trolls, anyone?) = even more trolls, ad nauseam.

Given Bay 12's current troll rating of zero, I think nothing we do would convince them to think through DF's controls.
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Re: Nothing Sacred Left: Add Sewage Already
« Reply #291 on: June 04, 2010, 08:47:19 am »

Modders WILL find a way to utilize it if any hint of the addition is in the RAWs

I think there's a good chance it won't be in the raws though.  There's no information for water, lava, vomit, mud, etc in the raws atm, so I think if sewage/filth/waste is added, it won't be in the raws either, unless for some reason waste from different animals is handled differently.
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Re: Nothing Sacred Left: Add Sewage Already
« Reply #292 on: June 04, 2010, 01:15:31 pm »

there should be atleast a [NO_WASTE] tag

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Re: Nothing Sacred Left: Add Sewage Already
« Reply #293 on: June 04, 2010, 03:28:07 pm »

there should be atleast a [NO_WASTE] tag
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Re: Nothing Sacred Left: Add Sewage Already
« Reply #294 on: June 04, 2010, 03:31:02 pm »

there should be atleast a [NO_WASTE] tag

Maybe when digestive systems become more complex and realistic, this sort of tag won't be necessary.
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Askot Bokbondeler

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Re: Nothing Sacred Left: Add Sewage Already
« Reply #295 on: June 04, 2010, 04:08:21 pm »

i mean, for bronze colossi and such. dragons would shit magma, obviously.

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Re: Nothing Sacred Left: Add Sewage Already
« Reply #296 on: June 04, 2010, 04:12:41 pm »

Yeah, but I'm hoping that by that point, the game's biological systems will have progressed to the point where if we don't want something to shit, we mod out its organs.
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Re: Nothing Sacred Left: Add Sewage Already
« Reply #297 on: June 04, 2010, 06:32:37 pm »

Do people seriously think that having sewage in the game would attract "immature players"?
Frankly anything that gets more people to play DF would be good thing. Neither can I imagine people being so hypocritical that they stop playing because they find natural bodily functions offensive yet are with content with the murder and torture the virtual denizens of Dwarf Fortress.
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Re: Nothing Sacred Left: Add Sewage Already
« Reply #298 on: June 05, 2010, 01:10:02 pm »

Stalin only had the people with influence who opposed him killed.
Go read Robert Conquest.
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Re: Nothing Sacred Left: Add Sewage Already
« Reply #299 on: June 05, 2010, 07:30:09 pm »

This would also add some potential besides infections. For example, in adventure mode, cutting open someones stomach, pulling their intestines out, and squeezing them at the enemies face so as to use them as a waste gun.
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