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Of course not. Freedom is great.

82 (31.4%)

Heavens no! I would never deny others.

10 (3.8%)

People should be free to enjoy what they like. I'd never oppose it.

29 (11.1%)

I love denying others basic rights so I can be lazy and not edit my .init file.

55 (21.1%)

What kind of rigged poll is this? MSNBC has fairer. Also, I am pro-filth.

85 (32.6%)

Total Members Voted: 260

[Morrigi]

OH NOSES POOR YOU!!!11111







More seriously, I think the ideas described in the OP are the best I've seen on the subject, and would make the game more fun and challenging in a relatively tastful way. Of course, there should be an init option to satisfy the whiners.

[Scruga]

Of course, there should be an init option to satisfy the whiners.

Has already been said. People don't want Toady to work on something they aren't going to use.

[Morrigi]

... I said "of course" because I'm aware that it's BLATANTLY OBVIOUS that people have said it before, and I agree with them. Also, I'm sure that if sewage did get put in there would be people who might realize it isn't the end of the world and really not so bad after all.



EDIT: grammars

[Nikov]

Of course, there should be an init option to satisfy the whiners.

Has already been said. People don't want Toady to work on something they aren't going to use.

Like the economy, temperatures, weather and invaders.

[Zalminen]

Not a good comparison though.

Pretty much everyone would use temperature and weather if they weren't so CPU intensive.

Most people use invaders except in specific cases (trying to learn the game, doing science/megaprojects etc).

Most people turn off economy because it's currently too lacking.

These are pretty different from sewage which many don't want in the game at all.

[Tenth Speed Writer]

The thought of putting latrines directly over nobles' rooms makes me giggle.

[Overspeculated]

People don't want Toady to

And there us where this topic fails. This is not a democracy, Toady One doesn't care how the min-maximizers or anybody thinks his game should look like; he will make the game how he wants to make it. It is his game after all, not yours.

And this is good, I've seen people like you, who presume to dictate to the actual game developers how the game should be like, erroneously thinking they represent the majority of the players, ruin plenty of great games. Take Kindgdomofloathing for example, the goddamn min-maximisers have transformed the game from a fun, witty and humorous browser game into an acquisition and grind game similar to world of warcraft.

These endless discussions are absolutely pointless and futile, especially if you realise that Toady One hasn't even posted in this topic you are all so fervently arguing in.

[PTTG??]

Man, this thread is worse than the one for the umbrella suggestion...

[Scruga]

People don't want Toady to

And there us where this topic fails. This is not a democracy, Toady One doesn't care how the min-maximizers or anybody thinks his game should look like; he will make the game how he wants to make it. It is his game after all, not yours.

And this is good, I've seen people like you, who presume to dictate to the actual game developers how the game should be like, erroneously thinking they represent the majority of the players, ruin plenty of great games. Take Kindgdomofloathing for example, the goddamn min-maximisers have transformed the game from a fun, witty and humorous browser game into an acquisition and grind game similar to world of warcraft.

These endless discussions are absolutely pointless and futile, especially if you realise that Toady One hasn't even posted in this topic you are all so fervently arguing in.

I'm trying to get this thread to die because I wholeheartedly agree with you. He does what he want so having this discussion is useless in the first place. At least put it in the suggestions page :/

[Urist McDepravity]

These endless discussions are absolutely pointless and futile, especially if you realise that Toady One hasn't even posted in this topic you are all so fervently arguing in.

"Hasn't posted" is not equal to "didn't read".

[Exiledhero99]

why was this necro'd?(or atleast semi. I haven't seen this thread for awhile now...thought it died)

[I am Leo]

The system you've come up with looks pretty sound.
I wouldn't mind having this in the game, but then it's not particularly necessary. You could play with it, but a small room, a bucket and a quick zoning tweak, job done, get on with the megaconstructions.
It doesn't seem to make the game any better or any worse, it just gives you more to do.

[Doppel]

Shitting is just one of the basic necessities of life, without it DF won't ever be complete.

[LegitMacgyver]

People don't want Toady to

And there us where this topic fails. This is not a democracy, Toady One doesn't care how the min-maximizers or anybody thinks his game should look like; he will make the game how he wants to make it. It is his game after all, not yours.

And this is good, I've seen people like you, who presume to dictate to the actual game developers how the game should be like, erroneously thinking they represent the majority of the players, ruin plenty of great games. Take Kindgdomofloathing for example, the goddamn min-maximisers have transformed the game from a fun, witty and humorous browser game into an acquisition and grind game similar to world of warcraft.

These endless discussions are absolutely pointless and futile, especially if you realise that Toady One hasn't even posted in this topic you are all so fervently arguing in.

I am in complete support of adding this to the game (I voted for it in the eternal suggestions), however I am pretty sure that in one of the dwarf talks Today said he has little interest in adding this to the game.

[Bunny]

I realise that Toady currently is not interested in adding this.  However one of the things I like so much about him is that he does listen to people.  Why else bother having an eternal suggestions vote system if he is just going to do what he wants to do anyway?  Toady is a reasonable enough developer that, if enough people want something and if they can provide a convincing argument and a practical manner of implementing something, he may consider it.

Of course it is his game and his decision to put in what he wants, but if it is like that as MUCH as you seem to think so, why bother with suggestions at all?  And if you really don't want this in the game, why not just say that and leave it be?  Those of us who WOULD like to see this implemented are happy enough having a productive and amicable discussion into the ways in which it could be implemented.  If it never happens, what have we lost except a bit of time chattering in the forums?

Man, those of you who don't want poop are getting to seem really ANGRY about this.  I don't get it.  Our opinion differs to yours. 

We've been able to post a whole host of reasonable justifications for discussing and wanting poop.  So far the only reasonable argument I've seen against it has been regarding the extra effort in adding sewage systems to a fortress.  Everyone else just keeps saying variations of "ew gross" which... well, in the last version all of my dorfs were naked, covered in several layers of vomit, blood and mud, none of them washed or bathed, my female dorfs regularly used their infants as shields, I would throw captured prisoners into a lava pit to burn to death and had an entire economy based on butchering kittens.  Oh, and since all of my dorfs ended up with cave adaption but my trade depot was outside, every trade would result in a thick path of vomit trailing from fortress to depot.  I can only imagine the state the goods ended up in by the time we traded them off.