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[quinquan]

I've been messing around with arena mode for a while, and it seems that bronze colossuses (colussi?) seems ever so slightly unkillable without magma. I set up the following fight in arena mode:

1 bronze colossus

vs

26 hydra, 10 ogres and 3 dwarfs (grand master hammer/armour/shield/dodge/wrestler/fighter, fully decked out in adamantine)

The colossus won, without a scratch.

I promptly set up a second test with the same colossus up against 10 dwarves (grand master axe/armour/shield/dodge/wrestler/fighter, fully decked out in adamantine) at which point the dwarves promptly chopped off the colossus' hands and feet. Fight over you might think, but no, this colossus then went on to break a dwarf's hand almost immediately (don't ask me what it hit him with).

The fight is still on going, its been about 40 minutes so far and the colossus has lost both hands, both feet, both ears and its nose, all of its other body parts are red and its still fighting. Despite its injuries, its killed 4 of the dwarves, and injured all but one of the others to varying degrees.

Has anyone discovered a magmaless way to kill one of these yet? I'm just about to set 2 colossuses off against each other in a separate bit of the arena, to see if either of them can kill each other.

Update -  while I was typing that last part, the colossus got another kill.

[tigrex]

This is the colossi's revenge upon us for not allowing it to survive worldgen till now.

[Ampoliros]

two-handed slade swords. Try it.

[Ioric Kittencuddler]

Too bad it lost it's hands so quick.  Try grappling an enemy's head with one of your hands as a Colossus and pinch it.

[quinquan]

two-handed slade swords. Try it.

That worked, eventually, after it killed the first 2 humans I spawned. That's right, lying on the ground, with no hands or feet to attack with, it killed 2 humans (along with 6 of the 10 dwarves I spawned)

However, is there anyway of killing them in fortress mode without slade (or magma), since we're not meant to be able to get to that rock.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Dragons can melt them with some level of effectiveness.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

But the arena still fills up with dragon bodies.

So yeah, someone needs to figure why they don't get hurt. Even when I pit two of them against one another and ASSUME CONTROL of one we cannot hurt each other, no matter what I try. They just don't seem to suffer injury, likely due to being solid bronze, but somthing still seems amiss.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Now, as for slade, that stuff seems more powerful than anything else. But as this is the stone that makes up the HFS it can never be viable, except in arena mode. I read in another thread that the game refuses to even recognize it's use in a construction, even if you can manage to mine it.

[Rose]

http://mkv25.net/dfma/movie-2078-failingtopwnacolossus
these are archers with adamantine weapons and all legendary skills.

[Nexii Malthus]

Has been mentioned before.

[Ampoliros]

two-handed slade swords. Try it.

That worked, eventually, after it killed the first 2 humans I spawned. That's right, lying on the ground, with no hands or feet to attack with, it killed 2 humans (along with 6 of the 10 dwarves I spawned)

However, is there anyway of killing them in fortress mode without slade (or magma), since we're not meant to be able to get to that rock.

Hah, that I don't know. I know iron and adamantium aren't enough. The colossus just has a high barrier of entry to dealing kill-able damage, and once you breach that particular barrier they die pretty quick.

although, i don't know if arena equipment has quality modifiers, so that may help in dorf mode

[dreiche2]

Yes, it's probably bugged, but also, using adamantine hammers and projectiles is likely pointless because they're basically weightless.

[quinquan]

I think their complete invulnerability to seemingly every attack is due to a mixture of [NOPAIN], [NOEXERT] and the fact that they are now actually made of bronze. Because of this combination they are almost impossible to damage, due to all their tissue layers being solid bronze. This means you need to be very lucky to hit them with anything and even then, it has almost no effect on them, because of [NOPAIN], they just keep going hitting with whatever is left, bronze is bronze, be is a fist or a foot or whatever's its left with. Due to [NOEXERT] they can just keep going forever outlasting any other opponent and then crushing them.

I think the forbidden stone is so effective due to its massive weight so it just destroys anything in its path with ease.

Update of the 2 dueling colossuses - they are still going, both having removed all of the others fingers, then their hands and quite a lot of toes, and causing general damage to their bodies, however there is no end in sight for their battle.

[Rose]

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[OBJECT:CREATURE]

[CREATURE:COLOSSUS_SLADE]
[DESCRIPTION:A gigantic magic statue made of slade and bent on mayhem.]
[NAME:slade colossus:slade colossuses:slade colossus]
[CASTE_NAME:slade colossus:slade colossuses:slade colossus]
[CREATURE_TILE:'C'][COLOR:6:0:0]
[MEGABEAST]
[ATTACK_TRIGGER:80:10000:100000]
[FANCIFUL]
[POPULATION_NUMBER:15:30]
[NOPAIN][EXTRAVISION][NOBREATHE][NOSTUN][NONAUSEA][NOEMOTION]
[NOTHOUGHT][NOEXERT]
[NO_DIZZINESS]
[NO_FEVERS]
[BUILDINGDESTROYER:2]
[LARGE_PREDATOR]
[NO_DRINK][NO_EAT][NO_SLEEP]
[SPHERE:METALS]
[SPHERE:STRENGTH]
[SPHERE:WAR]
[CANNOT_UNDEAD]
[CANOPENDOORS]
[NOT_BUTCHERABLE]
[BIOME:ANY_LAND]
[EQUIPS]
[NOFEAR]
[PREFSTRING:height]
[NOBONES]
[BODY:HUMANOID:2EYES:2EARS:NOSE:HUMANOID_JOINTS:5FINGERS:5TOES]
[NO_THOUGHT_CENTER_FOR_MOVEMENT]
[TISSUE:SLADE]
[TISSUE_NAME:slade:slade]
[TISSUE_MATERIAL:INORGANIC:SLADE]
[MUSCULAR]
[FUNCTIONAL]
[STRUCTURAL]
[RELATIVE_THICKNESS:1]
[CONNECTS]
[TISSUE_SHAPE:LAYER]
[TISSUE_LAYER:BY_CATEGORY:ALL:SLADE]
[BODY_SIZE:0:0:20000000]
[BODY_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:HEIGHT:90:95:98:100:102:105:110]
[BODY_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:BROADNESS:90:95:98:100:102:105:110]
[ATTACK:PUNCH:BODYPART:BY_TYPE:GRASP]
[ATTACK_SKILL:GRASP_STRIKE]
[ATTACK_VERB:punch:punches]
[ATTACK_CONTACT_PERC:100]
[ATTACK_FLAG_WITH]
[ATTACK_PRIORITY:MAIN]
[ATTACK:KICK:BODYPART:BY_TYPE:STANCE]
[ATTACK_SKILL:STANCE_STRIKE]
[ATTACK_VERB:kick:kicks]
[ATTACK_CONTACT_PERC:100]
[ATTACK_FLAG_WITH]
[ATTACK_PRIORITY:SECOND]
[ITEMCORPSE:STATUE:NO_SUBTYPE:INORGANIC:SLADE]
[ITEMCORPSE_QUALITY:5]
[DIURNAL]
[SWIMS_LEARNED][SWIM_SPEED:2500]


[MetalSlimeHunt]

You..You monster...

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

I'd like to see the HFS fight that beast.

[Ioric Kittencuddler]

There's always the Dwarven Atom Smasher.  Or dropping them repeatedly from huge heights.  Seriously.  I fell from the bridge to the bottom of the pit in the arena and lost my right ear.

[Lordinquisitor]

Well, i`d like to be able to kill a bronze colossus with sufficient iron weapons and manpower.

Still, it would be cool if magma and dragonfire actually would stay the most cost efficient way of killing it.

More serious are the truly unkillable undeads.