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[Aklyon]

So Cheese AND Soap Makers have a use now!? THE END IS UPON US!

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

[Box]

If anything I would imagine you would be able to leave some poison lying around for adventure mode.  {I}nteracting with it, and then applying it to something.

But that's pure speculation.  If anything, you could probably get some valuable trade goods, and nothing says "Screw you" to the elven caravan like offering them 500 vials of elf blood.

[puke]

i guess im the only one whos not thrilled by this change.  i liked how humans and dwarfs had different cultural views of milk / cheese, and there had to be cross-civilization trade if you wanted to get your hands on a delacacy from another culture.

oh well.

[Blackburn]

i guess im the only one whos not thrilled by this change.  i liked how humans and dwarfs had different cultural views of milk / cheese, and there had to be cross-civilization trade if you wanted to get your hands on a delacacy from another culture.

oh well.

It was less a matter of cultural differences, and more along the lines of the fact milking mechanics were ridiculously designed.

Cultures across the world figured out milking. It's only logical that dwarves would know it.


Is there a use for blood yet? Can you dump it in a pond and make a pool of blood?

[LemonFrosted]

grabbed horse for milking.

Wat.

Horse milk has been a staple in central asia for, um, ever?  Milking horses is not anything out of the ordinary or strange tbh... 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kumis
http://www.mongolfood.info/en/recipes/airag.html

It's my opinion, having tasted it, that airag is a mark of desperation, not civilization. It's the reason they invaded the rest of the world: to find better booze.

[Owlbread]

grabbed horse for milking.

Wat.

Horse milk has been a staple in central asia for, um, ever?  Milking horses is not anything out of the ordinary or strange tbh... 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kumis
http://www.mongolfood.info/en/recipes/airag.html

I agree. The simple fact that we grab the fleshy appendages on the underbellies of animals and drink the white liquid that spurts forth is quite unusual in itself. Why is the milk of a particular animal any stranger?

[Blackburn]

grabbed horse for milking.

Wat.

Horse milk has been a staple in central asia for, um, ever?  Milking horses is not anything out of the ordinary or strange tbh... 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kumis
http://www.mongolfood.info/en/recipes/airag.html

I agree. The simple fact that we grab the fleshy appendages on the underbellies of animals and drink the white liquid that spurts forth is quite unusual in itself. Why is the milk of a particular animal any stranger?

Because most people had cows, who did it better than any other animal they knew of. When given the choice between a superior and inferior animal, why choose the inferior one?

That's the logic of his/her thinking.

[BigD145]

If we milk an elf, can we get poison to coat sword blades?

[Owlbread]

grabbed horse for milking.

Wat.

Horse milk has been a staple in central asia for, um, ever?  Milking horses is not anything out of the ordinary or strange tbh... 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kumis
http://www.mongolfood.info/en/recipes/airag.html

I agree. The simple fact that we grab the fleshy appendages on the underbellies of animals and drink the white liquid that spurts forth is quite unusual in itself. Why is the milk of a particular animal any stranger?

Because most people had cows, who did it better than any other animal they knew of. When given the choice between a superior and inferior animal, why choose the inferior one?

That's the logic of his/her thinking.

Is that necessarily true? I think that goat and ewe milk is perfectly acceptable and not inferior to cow milk, and as I am lactose intolerant, this is a great help when lactose free milk is unavailable. As for "ease of access", I'm not entirely certain.
Sheep are also far hardier animals, and could survive in conditions that would be rather difficult for a cow.
I must say that goat milk does have a distinct "goaty" taste which I dislike, however. I think you could get used to it.

My point is that are horses and other animals truly inferior to cows on the subject of milking?

[Blackburn]

grabbed horse for milking.

Wat.

Horse milk has been a staple in central asia for, um, ever?  Milking horses is not anything out of the ordinary or strange tbh... 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kumis
http://www.mongolfood.info/en/recipes/airag.html

I agree. The simple fact that we grab the fleshy appendages on the underbellies of animals and drink the white liquid that spurts forth is quite unusual in itself. Why is the milk of a particular animal any stranger?

Because most people had cows, who did it better than any other animal they knew of. When given the choice between a superior and inferior animal, why choose the inferior one?

That's the logic of his/her thinking.

Is that necessarily true? I think that goat and ewe milk is perfectly acceptable and not inferior to cow milk, and as I am lactose intolerant, this is a great help when lactose free milk is unavailable. As for "ease of access", I'm not entirely certain.
Sheep are also far hardier animals, and could survive in conditions that would be rather difficult for a cow.
I must say that goat milk does have a distinct "goaty" taste which I dislike, however. I think you could get used to it.

My point is that are horses and other animals truly inferior to cows on the subject of milking?

Yes. Yes they are.

Horses I mean. I wasn't talking about sheep, goats, llamas, etc. I was specifically referring to cows and horses.

[Owlbread]

grabbed horse for milking.

Wat.

Horse milk has been a staple in central asia for, um, ever?  Milking horses is not anything out of the ordinary or strange tbh... 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kumis
http://www.mongolfood.info/en/recipes/airag.html

I agree. The simple fact that we grab the fleshy appendages on the underbellies of animals and drink the white liquid that spurts forth is quite unusual in itself. Why is the milk of a particular animal any stranger?

Because most people had cows, who did it better than any other animal they knew of. When given the choice between a superior and inferior animal, why choose the inferior one?

That's the logic of his/her thinking.

Is that necessarily true? I think that goat and ewe milk is perfectly acceptable and not inferior to cow milk, and as I am lactose intolerant, this is a great help when lactose free milk is unavailable. As for "ease of access", I'm not entirely certain.
Sheep are also far hardier animals, and could survive in conditions that would be rather difficult for a cow.
I must say that goat milk does have a distinct "goaty" taste which I dislike, however. I think you could get used to it.

My point is that are horses and other animals truly inferior to cows on the subject of milking?

Yes. Yes they are.

Horses I mean. I wasn't talking about sheep, goats, llamas, etc. I was specifically referring to cows and horses.

But how so? Are you referring to their lesser amounts of body fat, size etc?

[Kat]

(...)
EDIT2: Why not try to determine that how often creatures can be milked...I'm smelling a possible exploit here...

It seems to me like once a month the milk regenerates, and giving birth doesn't lead to increased milk output, unfortunately. If the output was more than 1 milk I could have a nice cheese roast industry.

For me it seems that it is once a season.
Also I have produced cow cheese[2] somewhat, I am sure it didn't came from merchants. Either the cow produced stack of 2 milk, or milker stacked the milk from 2 cows into one stack, or cheese maker stacked the cheese. 

Do you think maybe it's like other skills, and that a Legendary milker could get a bigger stack of milk from the animal, or a legendary cheesemaker make more cheese from the milk?

[thepodger]

Hopefully we'll be able to form cheeseblocks...

[Blackburn]

grabbed horse for milking.

Wat.

Horse milk has been a staple in central asia for, um, ever?  Milking horses is not anything out of the ordinary or strange tbh... 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kumis
http://www.mongolfood.info/en/recipes/airag.html

I agree. The simple fact that we grab the fleshy appendages on the underbellies of animals and drink the white liquid that spurts forth is quite unusual in itself. Why is the milk of a particular animal any stranger?

Because most people had cows, who did it better than any other animal they knew of. When given the choice between a superior and inferior animal, why choose the inferior one?

That's the logic of his/her thinking.

Is that necessarily true? I think that goat and ewe milk is perfectly acceptable and not inferior to cow milk, and as I am lactose intolerant, this is a great help when lactose free milk is unavailable. As for "ease of access", I'm not entirely certain.
Sheep are also far hardier animals, and could survive in conditions that would be rather difficult for a cow.
I must say that goat milk does have a distinct "goaty" taste which I dislike, however. I think you could get used to it.

My point is that are horses and other animals truly inferior to cows on the subject of milking?

Yes. Yes they are.

Horses I mean. I wasn't talking about sheep, goats, llamas, etc. I was specifically referring to cows and horses.

But how so? Are you referring to their lesser amounts of body fat, size etc?

I'm simply deducing that because people use cows instead of horses, cows must be better.

[TBot Alpha]

we have to find a way to capture and breed mermaids

We must milk them! We've tortured and murdered prisoners, attacked neutral parties (traders), committed genocide on a regular basis (at least, that's how the elves see it) and abused the laws of physics like a beaten house-wife. We just need to keep semi-sentient creatures as livestock (slavery) and we'll have committed every atrocity under the sun!