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[100killer9]

They don't show up in legends, and I can't play as kobolds from the adventurer race selection screen. All I did was give kobolds [INTELLIGENT] while removing [CAN_LEARN].

[Tcei]

Not sure about kobolds, but (some at least) the animal-men seem to live underground now.  In my last fort they showed up suddenly in my civ screen after I discovered the caverns under my fort. Lizardmen are quite vicious when armed.

[Rumrusher]

They don't show up in legends, and I can't play as kobolds from the adventurer race selection screen. All I did was give kobolds [INTELLIGENT] while removing [CAN_LEARN].

did you add adventure tag on them? they need that.
kobold are near caves while I still can't get animal men.

[100killer9]

Yeah, but even if I DIDN'T they would still show up in legends, right?

[Retro]

Found kobolds in legends. I haven't seen any outside there yet, but I guess they're out there somewhere. Now that regular caves are gone, I wonder if they're living in the underground or if they have camps.

[stew_mcgruff]

I've had a group of snailmen living outside my fort since day 1.  Seem pretty harmless, they usually run when a dwarf gets too close.

[Meanmelter]

Lizardmen are quite vicious when armed.

Antmen are quite vicious when armed or not.

[shadowclasper]

Yeah, I think all kobolds are wiped out by forgotten beasts every time... I can't find their civ's EVER.

[denadan]

two kobold-thiefs was killed by dogs...

[Duuvian]

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Then goblins happened.

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Now while everyone is still battling a giant eagle decided to appear out of nowhere.

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Also, I uncovered a cavern. It seems to boost wealth and space up enough to trigger a lot of migrant waves and possibly goblin ambushes. I set my migrant cap at 30 to keep fps decent and from being swamped with migrants.

EDIT: Elves just showed up right after the eagle! look what they brought on their first trip!

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[Walliard]

Yeah, I think all kobolds are wiped out by forgotten beasts every time... I can't find their civ's EVER.

I think it's more than that. Not showing up in legends means they aren't even getting placed at all. Also, making them the only playable civ causes worldgen to fail before history gets run.

UPDATE: It seems to be their cave preference that's the problem. I'm guessing they all get taken up by megabeasts before the 'bolds show up.

[100killer9]

So...
1) I have animal people but they don't show up in legends
2) Kobolds can't spawn because there are no free caves
But don't kobold civilizations spawn at the beginning of world gen?

[Urist McCyrilin]

My fledgling Fortress was destroyed by Kobolds. They sent an ambush of 10 markskobolds. There were no survivors.

[100killer9]

Alright? But why am I not getting a single kobold or animal man civilization to show up in legends?
Is there a reason kobolds don't have [CAN_CIV]?

[Glanzor]

But don't kobold civilizations spawn at the beginning of world gen?

I'm pretty sure they spawn the megabeasts before they spawn the civilizations.

Is there a reason kobolds don't have [CAN_CIV]?

I think the tag just doesn't exist anymore. the animal people don't have it either.

I have one region out of six that actually has kobolds and they show up in legends as well if I recall right.
It seems like the monsters really take up all the caves before the 'bolds have any chance to get theirs.