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[Rowanas]

So, Oh wise and mighty Toady One (armok be with him) when's the mac one out for? I'm super pleased that I get to wait for the mac version to come out, long after everyone else has been going on about the new version. Just thrilled.

[Meanmelter]

There is a MACOX program that converts it into playing Windows program. Idk where it is, but I seen it.

[Sean_W]

So, Oh wise and mighty Toady One (armok be with him) when's the mac one out for? I'm super pleased that I get to wait for the mac version to come out, long after everyone else has been going on about the new version. Just thrilled.

I'm getting about 35 FPS using wine on my mac. I dont see your problem. reveal left some blank spots but besides that its working fine. I just wish partial print would work. Debating putting my dwarfes on speed 2 or higher to make up for the low fps.

[Box]

Mmhm.  Wine has been confirmed to work for most people.

Regarding an actual OS X version... it will likely take some time.


For one, it's a buggy release uploaded in what appears to be some rather frantic haste.  It's not exactly amazing, but our reports certainly will help the major issues get addressed, possibly with these issues being fixed when other platforms get releases.  You'll have to ask Toady about that.  I'm pretty sure he mentioned something in the devlog though, but regardless I'm sure he's working on it.  If you can't get Wine to work, then be patient.  Windows gets the first release because I'm pretty sure Toady uses Windows, so it's pretty simple to just pack up and ship his last build.



Think of it this way: Mac is more likely to get a less buggy release when it finally does arrive mac-compatible.


EDIT:

The current situation is that I expect a (buggy!) Windows release in about a week, with the 40d# merge commencing at that time (or within a few days of the release). This is a bit of a change of plan, since I was originally going to release for all operating systems at once, but I feel like I'm going to get even more bogged down if I don't do it this way and the initial pre-merge release will give us a control to work with in the same way that 40d can be compared to 40d#. The initial merge release shouldn't take too long though, and it will be the top priority aside from the worst catastrophic crashes and things of that nature. I know the merge changes make the game playable for many of you when it otherwise isn't.

I guess I didn't quite read it right.  It was a bit more or less vague on the subject of other platforms.  Anyway, don't worry.  It'll likely arrive soon, and it gives you time to work on Wine which'll be helpful for more than just Dwarf Fortress if you can get it working.

[Warlord255]

You're angry that ONE DAY after the initial release, the development team of ONE MAN WORKING FOR FREE has not yet released Mac version, despite the stated intent to do so?

I've been sitting on a Starcraft II beta key for well over a month now and there's no mac beta client yet. And they have an ENTIRE TEAM being PAID working on this game.

[Flaming Dorf]

The game is running at around 42 FPS, give or take, on Wine. There are occasional dips, but its fairly good for the most part.

[Cruxador]

So you use an OS which the developer does not, and the general population does not, and your marginal demographic is marginalized. I fail to see the problem. Do what Linux users (and at least some other Mac users) do - make it work instead of complaining about it.

[Krumbs]

Every second of not being able to play this is agony, but in a way I'm glad it's not come out. When it was near release I though:
"Maybe I wont get it the moment it comes out so there's time for the wiki to fill up so I can get instant help should I need it. Ah who am I kidding, I'm downloading it as soon as I can!"

So although I yearn for this new build, it's not a total loss at least. Also hopefully the Mac release will have a few of many bugs everyones going on about fixed.

[Retro]

Every second of not being able to play this is agony, but in a way I'm glad it's not come out. When it was near release I though:
"Maybe I wont get it the moment it comes out so there's time for the wiki to fill up so I can get instant help should I need it. Ah who am I kidding, I'm downloading it as soon as I can!"

So although I yearn for this new build, it's not a total loss at least. Also hopefully the Mac release will have a few of many bugs everyones going on about fixed.

I downloaded it instantly and diddled around for a bit, but I haven't actively played for more than maybe an hour. I like long-term forts and aside from a bit of investigation into burrows, the rather impenetrable military screens, and the new burrow system (which has a mouse painter and eraser :D:D) I don't have any real use for an unstable release. I can wait just fine.

[Krumbs]

The first thing I think I'll do is just mine as far as I can till I hit a large cavern then turn 5 of my starting 7 into wrestlers and get them to explore until they are inevitably struck down by some tusked monstrosity.

[Box]

The first thing I think I'll do is just mine as far as I can till I hit a large cavern then turn 5 of my starting 7 into wrestlers and get them to explore until they are inevitably struck down by some tusked monstrosity.

After generating a world I exported the docs related to it.  Stopped at year 100, a little custom stats relating to sharper cliff faces, but this is what you have to look forward to:

Spoiler: New Creature/Possibly HFS Spoilers! (click to show/hide)

Underground Animal Populations (Including Undead)
   177497 gorlaks
   177430 trolls
   119444 giant cave spiders
   83888 giant rats
   97018 gremlins
   90860 giant moles
   204001 dralthas
   630517 troglodytes
   50247 large rats
   336838 naked mole dogs
   117472 cave crocodiles
   117485 giant toads
   117486 giant olms
   468043 pond grabbers
   55342 giant bats
   55855 giant cave swallows
   728630 elk birds
   114742 drunians
   17279 blind cave bears
   58474 maneras
   232178 blind cave ogres
   116267 reachers
   626605 bugbats
   74673 molemarians
   485906 plump helmet men
   2288848 crundles (!!!! TWO MILLION)
   63368 voracious cave crawlers
   67757 jabberers
   32111 cave floaters
   323600 rutherers
   31265 floating guts
   16442 green devourers
   199714 blood men
   861800 creeping eyes
   228845 cave blobs
   225494 flesh balls
   290626 hungry heads
   2005 amethyst men
   480 gabbro men
   66207 magma men
   66227 fire men
Specific "unnumbered" spoilers removed (HFS)
   198575 bats
   203344 cave swallows
   192506 olms
   214591 cave spiders
   179338 cap hoppers
   215814 cave lobsters
   216484 cave fish
   169072 purring maggots
   99823 creepy crawlers
   117387 fire snakes

On a slightly different note, there are tens of millions of vermin, and several million of the smaller creatures, like THAT BLUE HEDGEHOG AGAIN, OF ALL PLACES.

Keep in mind that is worldwide, but you can expect to get a proportionate portion of each of those in a decent sized embark area, slightly skewed depending on your biome.

EDIT: Removed the "unnumbered" spoilers.  Unnumbered means they can't be counted for whatever reason.  Find out why yourself. 

[Sunday]

I believe Rowanas has a PPC, and so cannot use Wine.

While I can understand Rowanas' impatience, I'm sure Toady will get a version out as soon as he can.  Quite frankly, I doubt that the early release of the Windows version pushed the Mac version back significantly, if at all.

In any case, I actually have only run into one bug thus far.  I don't see why people keep saying this release is 'buggy' - none of the bugs reported so far seem all that major, to be honest.

[Box]

In any case, I actually have only run into one bug thus far.  I don't see why people keep saying this release is 'buggy' - none of the bugs reported so far seem all that major, to be honest.

Pathfinding, job incompetence, and crashes are the major ones.

The big problem itself is not singular major problems, but stacks of minor problems.  For example, dwarves requiring body parts (I don't think anyone's completed one yet, but I would like to see a high boot menacing with spikes of left goblin foot) and typos/parse errors (stone bars - impossible to make, actually mean metal bars) that confuse people.


Also the boiling hot face-melting rain is somewhat of a hurdle for some.  There are ways around that, too.

[ein]

PPC can't run Wine?
Damn.
Now I am angry, but more at this crappy old mac than the lack of a mac release.

[numerobis]

I suspect we'll all be better off playing wesnoth (which also just released a new version) for a couple weeks and la la la ignoring the forums.  Then, we can hit up the app store and downloaded it to our iPads.