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[Rumrusher]

Wait, so you can't build there? Daaaaamn. And I so wanted to have my nobles demonstrate dwarven might by LIVING there.

No, really. I really hoped I could make major outposts in hell.

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Anyone?

wait really so one can't build walls on top of the slate or a ceiling fort under there?

[kilakan]

an earlier post metioned that there is no bottomless chasms, and that the system is closed,  this is false, one if not all underground caverns are connected by open tunnels to the edge of the map, and you can drain water off there.  The underground creatures also migrate now, so you can have a gaint olm one day, and a horde of fleshballs the nexts..... also there is a creature called a fleshball, it is almost, if not worse then, the old tentacle demons.

[Shinziril]

[spoiler]When all of them are in the hall chasing after your animals (the hall must be sealed from your fortress, and preferably the outer world too if you wish to have any caravans or immigrants!), commence a dwarf to wall off the entrance back to their home, sealing all of them off into the separate area.

Assuming Supports and cave-ins work anything like the way they do in 40d, it's fairly easy to create a tunnel that can be sealed at the pull of a distant lever, instead of risking a dwarf (and your entire fortress). Simplest design, side view (# = wall, _ = floor):

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(with the bottom being a 1-tile-wide tunnel, and the top part being open in the third dimension so that the block is attached to nothing but the support)

(This also assumes that the demons wouldn't deliberately break the support themselves, muddling your plans a little. Although, you could also kill them all with deliberate cave-ins if that was what you were going for.)

If you leave the floor solid, instead of with a hole in it, it'll keep the demons from damaging the support, while still allowing the block to crash through the floor and seal off the tunnel.  See diagram below:

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[Level_8_Mudcrab]

I've found a different way down to the bottom other than the Adimintium shafts.

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 There was a Upright Adimintium Sword on my buildings list. Digging down towards it found a smoothed slade structure filled with undead. At the bottom of that was the sword. Removing the sword gave me a message about breaking the seal and screeches from the depths of hell. Underneath where the sword was there were now staircases which led down a large shaft to the bottom of the map. It was filled with lots demons. After that my dwarves soon all died. The sword once removed is a masterwork adimintium sword which can be taken.

[Karnewarrior]

I've found a different way down to the bottom other than the Adimintium shafts.

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 There was a Upright Adimintium Sword on my buildings list. Digging down towards it found a smoothed slade structure filled with undead. At the bottom of that was the sword. Removing the sword gave me a message about breaking the seal and screeches from the depths of hell. Underneath where the sword was there were now staircases which led down a large shaft to the bottom of the map. It was filled with lots demons. After that my dwarves soon all died. The sword once removed is a masterwork adimintium sword which can be taken.

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YES!

[Rumrusher]

I've found a different way down to the bottom other than the Adimintium shafts.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

 There was a Upright Adimintium Sword on my buildings list. Digging down towards it found a smoothed slade structure filled with undead. At the bottom of that was the sword. Removing the sword gave me a message about breaking the seal and screeches from the depths of hell. Underneath where the sword was there were now staircases which led down a large shaft to the bottom of the map. It was filled with lots demons. After that my dwarves soon all died. The sword once removed is a masterwork adimintium sword which can be taken.

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YES!

find sword leave go in as adventure pull said sword FUN times a roll!.
also one can build on slade just make floors on the ground that should cancel the effects.and grant you sites I just did on my 3rd reclaim some how the witches down in the suger mill seem to have left*.  hopefully I can finished off the dining hall and bed rooms with out much dangers.


*except for one who attack us but we crowned her quickly, I think embarking one tile to the right of a goblin fort helps with roaming witches.

[Burneddi]

[spoiler]When all of them are in the hall chasing after your animals (the hall must be sealed from your fortress, and preferably the outer world too if you wish to have any caravans or immigrants!), commence a dwarf to wall off the entrance back to their home, sealing all of them off into the separate area.

Assuming Supports and cave-ins work anything like the way they do in 40d, it's fairly easy to create a tunnel that can be sealed at the pull of a distant lever, instead of risking a dwarf (and your entire fortress). Simplest design, side view (# = wall, _ = floor):

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# I #
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(with the bottom being a 1-tile-wide tunnel, and the top part being open in the third dimension so that the block is attached to nothing but the support)

(This also assumes that the demons wouldn't deliberately break the support themselves, muddling your plans a little. Although, you could also kill them all with deliberate cave-ins if that was what you were going for.)

Someone on IRC suggested that, but it seems that cave-ins have been somewhat changed: I dropped 1 tile of rock down 2 z-levels into the hallway, and it broke into a stone instead of making a wall there as it would have done on 40d I think.

Therefore I had to use a bit more dangerous method.

[shadowclasper]

Get to that room in adventurer mode. RELEASE THE DEMONS! and run. See how far you can get before being cut down as hell flows out of the depths and changes the age

[Blackburn]

I've found a different way down to the bottom other than the Adimintium shafts.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

 There was a Upright Adimintium Sword on my buildings list. Digging down towards it found a smoothed slade structure filled with undead. At the bottom of that was the sword. Removing the sword gave me a message about breaking the seal and screeches from the depths of hell. Underneath where the sword was there were now staircases which led down a large shaft to the bottom of the map. It was filled with lots demons. After that my dwarves soon all died. The sword once removed is a masterwork adimintium sword which can be taken.

Hell. Yes.

Dwarf Fortress just got a whole lot more epic.

[Coded One]

Get to that room in adventurer mode. RELEASE THE DEMONS! and run. See how far you can get before being cut down as hell flows out of the depths and changes the age

Do released demons really have an effect on the outside world? Would be interesting to see global wars against crusading hell demons.

[Mindmaker]

Get to that room in adventurer mode. RELEASE THE DEMONS! and run. See how far you can get before being cut down as hell flows out of the depths and changes the age

Do released demons really have an effect on the outside world? Would be interesting to see global wars against crusading hell demons.

They hadn't in the last version. (At least not when I tested it)
They just stood idlye, just outside my fort.

[shadowclasper]

Get to that room in adventurer mode. RELEASE THE DEMONS! and run. See how far you can get before being cut down as hell flows out of the depths and changes the age

Do released demons really have an effect on the outside world? Would be interesting to see global wars against crusading hell demons.

In the old version, if you released demons it would some times changed the age. So yeah, I think infinite demons would cause a major change.

[BigD145]

They have 8 legs, but only use four. Obviously this is Charles Darwins nighmare.

No. I think you'd be surprised if you actually study what comes out of a million years' worth of generations. "Survival of the fittest" isn't always as obvious as you might first assume.

[Burneddi]

Get to that room in adventurer mode. RELEASE THE DEMONS! and run. See how far you can get before being cut down as hell flows out of the depths and changes the age

Do released demons really have an effect on the outside world? Would be interesting to see global wars against crusading hell demons.

In the old version, if you released demons it would some times changed the age. So yeah, I think infinite demons would cause a major change.

They're not infinite, but there's loads of them. And they're damn difficult to bring down, the first ones that emerge that is. Harder than megabeasts, I'd guess. That's just a guess, though.

I don't know whether or not they will go out and change the world after your fortress has been destroyed by them, though.