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[i2amroy]

Currently evil/good areas have been changed in that they simply add undead/evil trees/evil creatures/unicorns/etc. to the "pool" of available creatures/plants for the area. This means that often the specialized good/evil things are crowded out by the normal ones. I believe this is planned to be fixed eventually, but I don't know if it is in the next release or not.

[assimilateur]

This means that often the specialized good/evil things are crowded out by the normal ones.

If that explains how in some evil biomes all flora seems to be dead (that's what it looked like in one or two places I embarked on but soon canceled the game) then I'm not getting it. I mean, the dead plants were supposedly "neutral" shrubs that looked as though they'd been trampled and trees that looked as though they'd been burned.


Question: I've read that barons are supposed to continue working after they get promoted or whatever. This was true for my baron consort who continues planting and harvesting, but not quite for my baroness herself. She held a meeting but other than that her job reads noble and she won't budge to actually design the pumps I commissioned. Am I missing something here?

Edit: Apparently she will manufacture mechanisms, but designing buildings is beneath her. Strange shit.

[Buttery_Mess]

Sounds like the architect labour isn't active.

[i2amroy]

This means that often the specialized good/evil things are crowded out by the normal ones.

If that explains how in some evil biomes all flora seems to be dead (that's what it looked like in one or two places I embarked on but soon canceled the game) then I'm not getting it. I mean, the dead plants were supposedly "neutral" shrubs that looked as though they'd been trampled and trees that looked as though they'd been burned.


Question: I've read that barons are supposed to continue working after they get promoted or whatever. This was true for my baron consort who continues planting and harvesting, but not quite for my baroness herself. She held a meeting but other than that her job reads noble and she won't budge to actually design the pumps I commissioned. Am I missing something here?

Edit: Apparently she will manufacture mechanisms, but designing buildings is beneath her. Strange shit.

Yes, the dead shrubs are neutral plants, however them being created "dead" is a modifier to their status, similar to creatures being created "undead". This means that they are sort of treated like a new type of plant and as such lose out the race to their former selves.

Also yeah, it sounds like you're missing the architect labor since the "noble" job is just what it says instead of "no job".

[Garath]

1: is there any use for scales or feathers?

2: do bones and such disappead from underground (g)arbage dump places?

[Tirion]

1: is there any use for scales or feathers?

2: do bones and such disappead from underground (g)arbage dump places?

1. nope, not in vanilla. There are mods with reactions that use various body parts.

2. Bones, skull, cartilage: only if vermin eat them. Rest: rots away in time, generating miasma.

[assimilateur]

Sounds like the architect labour isn't active.

Also yeah, it sounds like you're missing the architect labor since the "noble" job is just what it says instead of "no job".

I double- and triple-checked to make sure she had the architect labor on in Dwarf Therapist and now I also checked in-game. I'm now testing this again disabling architecture on the guy who replaced her and ordering a support to be built and she won't budge. To control this I also ordered a mechanism to be manufactured and even though the noble (now a countess) is the only one with the mechanic labor enabled the job was marked as in progress instantly.

So she's available for work, has the architect labor enabled, but still won't do it. This either means that there's some weird glitch happening for me, or that nobles just won't do certain labors. To test the second alternative, you could try making your resident baron/count/duke design something and tell me how it goes.

[Garath]

officially, nobles dont work

assigning them labors in therapist is considered, by the game, to be a cheat, bypass, or whatever, and you know this since you have to check the box for this, i think, otherwise, now you know. Nobles are supposed to be like children, no option to give them labors. They are also ery lazy and may take ages to get even a minimum done

[assimilateur]

I didn't have to check or uncheck anything in DT, and the mechanic labor stayed enabled when the dwarf was made a noble so I didn't even need to touch it. What you're saying applies to children and supposedly still to monarchs (I say supposedly because I haven't had one in .31), but it's almost common knowledge that barons/counts/dukes are different. The labor screen (v->p->l) is accessible and the options are usable just like for any other dwarf even without DT on, whereas the sort of noble you speak of would have "a noble does/need not work" or something like that, similarly to how a child's pref. screen says "a child does at it pleases" and leaves the labor screen inaccessible.

What I'm trying to figure out now is whether there are still some jobs nobles won't do even if enabled, or if my guy is glitched. Not that it matters much since I'm going to be starting another fortress soon.

[proxn_punkd]

Is there some way to restrict my clothier's shop so my master tailors only use high-quality dyed cloth for their creations? I suppose I could customize the nearby cloth stockpiles to only take high-quality dyed cloth and set up a second clothpile for my dyers and weavers to work around?

[i2amroy]

Is there some way to restrict my clothier's shop so my master tailors only use high-quality dyed cloth for their creations? I suppose I could customize the nearby cloth stockpiles to only take high-quality dyed cloth and set up a second clothpile for my dyers and weavers to work around?

That's really the only way to do it. The other option is to simply make a large amount of cloth, forbid everything but what you want to use, make a large amount of clothes, and then unforbid everything. Currently there is no nice solution for this unfortunately.

[assimilateur]

I don't think there's a way - cloth stockpiles don't have a quality setting - but seeing as how you used the words tailors, weavers and dyers in the plural there's one piece of advice I can give you: use only one dwarf for a job if quality matters. One legendary dwarf can do the work of several proficient ones and produce higher quality goods as well. You're going to start out slower unless you're lucky when it comes to moods or migrants, but after some time you're going to end up with mostly (like 99% in my experience) exceptional and masterful quality goods.

[Garath]

you can make a first selection with (o)rders, (W)orkshop and make it so they only use dyed cloth

[Sphalerite]

officially, nobles dont work

Not in the current version.  In 31.25 nobles can be assigned labors just like any other dwarf, without needing to use therapist or any other hacking tool, and will work happily as if they were any other dwarf.

[Sutremaine]

you can make a first selection with (o)rders, (W)orkshop and make it so they only use dyed cloth

That doesn't really help with the 'high quality' part of the question though.

Perhaps it would work out if you had a no-bin stockpile for thread and cloth and then used the trade depot's 'sort by value' feature to pick out and sell off the lower-quality stuff. You'd need to have the stockpiles surrounding the trade depot, or lots of idlers at trading time.