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[Zeebie]

Can dwarfs die of exhaustion? I had a dwarf drop dead in the middle of a very long fight (weeks long) without being hit, without the hungry or thirsty flags.

[the one and only joseph]

just equiping my military, and at this point i want to save on resources. so what pieces of armour should i forge? i know mail shirts are the only armour that protect the upper arm/shoulder, so i am making them (espicaly since a giant badger ripped the right arm clean off one of my hunters not 10 mins after embarking- shes now my sheriff, as i imangine that she cant do a lot of damage with 1 arm). but if i have mail shirts do i need breastplates? helms or caps? leggings and/or greaves (do they stack/cover different body parts)? high boots or low boots?

[i2amroy]

Can dwarfs die of exhaustion? I had a dwarf drop dead in the middle of a very long fight (weeks long) without being hit, without the hungry or thirsty flags.

No, however if the dwarf passed out from exhaustion the next hit is virtually guaranteed to be a killing blow unless he is saved by awesome head armor.

just equiping my military, and at this point i want to save on resources. so what pieces of armour should i forge? i know mail shirts are the only armour that protect the upper arm/shoulder, so i am making them (espicaly since a giant badger ripped the right arm clean off one of my hunters not 10 mins after embarking- shes now my sheriff, as i imangine that she cant do a lot of damage with 1 arm). but if i have mail shirts do i need breastplates? helms or caps? leggings and/or greaves (do they stack/cover different body parts)? high boots or low boots?

The military design page on the wiki has some basic ideas for uniforms before and while you are limited on metal. As for what armor tends to be the best, mail shirts/breastplates are very useful for protecting the body. Also helms are essential for saving dwarves that collapse due to wounds or exhaustion as enemies will automatically target the head. Robes are also extremely useful for protecting the few holes in a fully armored dwarf's armor such as the neck and throat, and have the benefit of being made from cloth and not metal. Shields are also immensely helpful in allowing your dwarves to survive attacks, possibly even more so than many pieces of armor. Finally all armor parts stack if they cover the same body part.

[evillevi]

what will happen when non-magma proof walls touches magma

[Sphalerite]

Nothing.  Constructions (including walls and floors) are immune to magma, even if they're made of wood.

[evillevi]

Thanks but still it seem somewhat unrealistic. I mean the melting/burning point should be the same as the material it is mad out of. Thanks anyway but now I got to find out the best way to collapse the building.

[Grumbledwarfskin]

If you deconstruct the walls/floors made of non-manma safe materials, then they will come in contact with the magma as items, rather than constructions, and they will burn (or melt, depending on why they aren't magma safe).

So I think you'd probably be able to drop a wooden container of magma on the goblins, with the goblins immediately underneath dying due to a cave-in, nearby goblins being burned up by a wave of magma, and have a bunch of flaming logs in the middle of it all. Less reusability, but more ‼fun‼ (and/or ‼FUN‼).

Another option would be to try a wood stockpile on a collapsible floor, and drop a small amount of magma onto the pile to start a fire before dropping it on the goblins. Or just a wood stockpile in the target zone and drop a small amount of magma to light it.

[evillevi]

Thats genius. Can't wait to set it up.

[Garath]

Can dwarfs die of exhaustion? I had a dwarf drop dead in the middle of a very long fight (weeks long) without being hit, without the hungry or thirsty flags.

yes, when in metal armor and doing a lot of dodging or other moves, dwarfs can pass out from exhaustion. I have seen this happen in danger rooms with high training spear density. It depends on how durable the warrior in question is.

the worst happening in the training room is no more learning, i imagine its a bad move in a running battle

[greycat]

shes now my sheriff, as i imangine that she cant do a lot of damage with 1 arm

Dwarves that use the use an arm/hand will hold weapon and shield in the other hand.  At the same time.  To the best of my knowledge, this does not a significant impact on the damage they do with that weapon.  Dwarves having 2 hands is more of a redundancy thing than a requirement for any particular task.

[i2amroy]

shes now my sheriff, as i imangine that she cant do a lot of damage with 1 arm

Dwarves that use the use an arm/hand will hold weapon and shield in the other hand.  At the same time.  To the best of my knowledge, this does not a significant impact on the damage they do with that weapon.  Dwarves having 2 hands is more of a redundancy thing than a requirement for any particular task.

With an exception of holding two handed weapons, of which there aren't really any for dwarves in vanilla anyways.

[Tirion]

Is there a way to turn unbutcherable skeletons into usable bones? My dorfs have no problem using goblin bones, but they won't butcher the corpses nor the skeletons, so I can only use what's from my trap line: if a serrated green glass disk cuts off an arm, it'll rot into bones. Actually, if corpses get torn apart by big falls, I might have just an idea... do they?

[i2amroy]

Unfortunately once a corpse is created nothing can be done to free up the bones from the corpse. The only real way to solve the problem is to change what way the corpse is created in. Large z-drops work great for causing goblins to burst into pieces, or large numbers of serrated disks in traps will work also, though not as well as the z-drop method. The only thing you can do with the corpses is to dump them into magma or use them as some kind of macabre dining room piece.

[Garath]

its why i tried smashing spiked balls this time. Unfortunately, those have the drawback that the creatures that die at them often get stuck in them. I forgot if ir was possible to pit such items, one of my forts is cluttering with severed body parts too

be informed that trolls and ogres are fairly unhindered by spinning discs, sometimes even iron ones, and if you have steel, you could outfit a good militia

my idea, though i could be wrong, is to go for a 50/50 in serrated discs and spiked balls. Even if the discs are deflected (happens often with both silver and copper against trolls wearing spider silk!, iron goes a bit better), the balls will often break or fracture or even shatter bones, if not just hurt

i now tend to a spacious area to let enemies in, a pressure plate to close the gate and several tpes of traps to kill or capture

first i put some serrated discs, they cut up unarmored and unskilled enemies and rarely get stuck
then people run into spiked ball traps. even a relatively weak trap will crush a brain (copper/silver) or at least incapacitate an enemy

when enemies ran this far, i usually open the gate again, allowing escape. most die trying to get back, some die before getting to the early traps

some are so tough they make it further. cage traps. this is a guy i want my marksdwarfs to train on

If anyone makes it past that (i dont open the shortcuts only for cleanup) they get to the spikes, that fire based on how many people walk in and out of the dining hall

After that i have a small area now for a small cave-in

[Sutremaine]

be informed that trolls and ogres are fairly unhindered by spinning discs, sometimes even iron ones

Enormous corkscrews have 1/1000 the contact area of serrated discs and the same penetration. Only one attack per corkscrew, though, and I think they jam more often than the other trap weapons, so stick them at the end of the trap corridor.