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[Turnoverman]

But what about the imports/exports, anyone know?

Also, I have a high bridge suspended some 10 Z-levels above a pit with spikes. I'm putting traps on the bridge - are spiked balls likely to cause the enemies to fall?

1) I'd check, but my current fort is a mountainhome. If I had to guess, I'd be in the agreement screen of the civilization menu (select a civ, hit tab twice, and you're there)

2) Only if the enemy decides to dodge off the bridge. I'd go with large, serrated discs. That's three attacks they have a chance to dodge.

[Jhoosier]

But what about the imports/exports, anyone know?

Also, I have a high bridge suspended some 10 Z-levels above a pit with spikes. I'm putting traps on the bridge - are spiked balls likely to cause the enemies to fall?

No idea about import/export.  I've never found out how.

As for the bridge, from what I recall reading here before, it should work, but you could also use wooden weapons if you only want enemies to die from the fall.  Me, I use a lever-activated retractable bridge and just drop them once everyone piles on.

[Farmerbob]

If I make a pump stack, do I need to get massive quantities of windmills to power them, or can a dwarf just pump on the top and power the whole thing?

Note: I can't just use perpetual motion, there's no water on my map except for 1-2 filled murky ponds right after it rains, and that evaporates almost immediately, especially during summer in which water is removed from murky pools immediately anyway. Not even in the caverns. No clue why there's no water in the caverns. (At least layer 1 and 2, but pumping water up from 3 would be counterintuitive anyway because the magma source I'm using is also in cavern layer 3 and I could just skip the water and pump the magma)

OK, if you get any rainfall at all, here's what I suggest:

Build a channel in the middle of your pond, and remove slope, repeat until there is a channel several tiles deep.  Then dig across a few tiles.  Build a Floodgate, link it to a lever, then a wall, then cut fortifications into it, then build a second floodgate and link it to a *different* lever, and then build a cistern with stairs.  Put a grate at the top.

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WWWWWWWW
WSCXFXPW
WWWWWWWW
W = natural rock walls
S = stairs
C = Cistern
X = Floodgates
F = constructed wall with fortifications cut into it
P = Pond hole


Basically what will hopefully happen is that the little dribbles of water you see will fall down into the hole and build up in the hole under the pond to a point high enough that you can start slowly siphoning it off by cycling the floodgates.  You want at least one constructed wall fortification to keep out building destroyers while still allowing water in.

[Kay12]

But what about the imports/exports, anyone know?

Also, I have a high bridge suspended some 10 Z-levels above a pit with spikes. I'm putting traps on the bridge - are spiked balls likely to cause the enemies to fall?

No idea about import/export.  I've never found out how.

As for the bridge, from what I recall reading here before, it should work, but you could also use wooden weapons if you only want enemies to die from the fall.  Me, I use a lever-activated retractable bridge and just drop them once everyone piles on.

I have the combination approach - bridge and traps. I'm just a bit short on metals, and I'd like to balance for this by making my weapon traps occasionally fling enemies into pits. But as long as they die someway, I don't care.

[Farmerbob]

But what about the imports/exports, anyone know?

Also, I have a high bridge suspended some 10 Z-levels above a pit with spikes. I'm putting traps on the bridge - are spiked balls likely to cause the enemies to fall?

Dodging causes the enemies to fall - they will frequently try to dodge anything, so the type of weapon trap isn't terribly important if you just want them to fall.  Menacing spikes are the least likely to jam up and fail to reset, I think.

[Kay12]

And aren't menacing spikes rather effective even if made out of wood? Or is it only when used on upright spike traps?

[Turnoverman]

Wooden menacing spikes are indeed rather effective... if you have them in an upright spike trap connected to a repeating pulled lever. I couldn't imagine them being very useful outside of that, the majority of the first couple pages of the trap combat report with goblins is them blocking/having stuff be deflected by their armor, so... I'd still go with the large, serrated discs, honestly.

[Kay12]

Wooden menacing spikes are indeed rather effective... if you have them in an upright spike trap connected to a repeating pulled lever. I couldn't imagine them being very useful outside of that, the majority of the first couple pages of the trap combat report with goblins is them blocking/having stuff be deflected by their armor, so... I'd still go with the large, serrated discs, honestly.

Haven't got any metal, but the next caravan should bring steel. Until that, it's cages, spike traps, the bridge and wooden balls (the best wooden trap component, I think). Should be enough until I get those bars.

[Farmerbob]

But what about the imports/exports, anyone know?

Also, I have a high bridge suspended some 10 Z-levels above a pit with spikes. I'm putting traps on the bridge - are spiked balls likely to cause the enemies to fall?

No idea about import/export.  I've never found out how.

As for the bridge, from what I recall reading here before, it should work, but you could also use wooden weapons if you only want enemies to die from the fall.  Me, I use a lever-activated retractable bridge and just drop them once everyone piles on.

I have the combination approach - bridge and traps. I'm just a bit short on metals, and I'd like to balance for this by making my weapon traps occasionally fling enemies into pits. But as long as they die someway, I don't care.

Pressurized water to push stuff off the bridge?  no weapons or metal at all

Basically create a perpetual motion machine to power a whole bunch of pumps, and put the pumps behind a bunch of doors.

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BBBBBBBBBBBBBB
BBBBBBBBBBBBBB
WWDDDDDDDDDDWW
WWPPPPPPPPPPWW
WWPPPPPPPPPPWW
WWGGGGGGGGGG=====> perpetual motion powersource

. = open space
B = Bridge / Ledge
W = wall
D = doors all linked to pressure plates and/or levers
P = constantly running pumps forcing water against doors.
G = gears for power , sitting over the Grates allowing the pumps to pull water.

==== horizontal axle to gear behind perpetual power device
P = screw pumps

[Turnoverman]

Ah, I usually go with glass large, serrated discs because metal ones are a waste of metal (except for the Scenario of Prison, my artifact iron large, serrated disc, it's amazing at lopping off troll limbs, I don't want to know what inspired the weaponsmith to name it that, though)

[Kay12]

Ah, I usually go with glass large, serrated discs because metal ones are a waste of metal (except for the Scenario of Prison, my artifact iron large, serrated disc, it's amazing at lopping off troll limbs, I don't want to know what inspired the weaponsmith to name it that, though)

So, glass isn't hopeless anymore? I thought it had hard time penetrating armor.

And this one time I had to embark in a sandless region!

At least I've got clay. What can I even use that for? Free stone for wall is great, but can you construct mechanisms out of clay?

[Turnoverman]

Glass isn't amazing, but thirty attacks happening simultaneously is pretty dangerous no matter what the material (especially if it is a masterwork, and as such really pointy)

As for clay, clay is useful in ceramics. Ceramics are not useful in anything violence related.

[Kay12]

As for clay, clay is useful in ceramics. Ceramics are not useful in anything violence related.

Glass seems to be pretty much better at everything then. Except that one can create buildings from clay without any fuel at all.

Actually, I think clay might even redefine the surface fort idea. No need to worry about materials!

[Farmerbob]

Glass isn't amazing, but thirty attacks happening simultaneously is pretty dangerous no matter what the material (especially if it is a masterwork, and as such really pointy)

As for clay, clay is useful in ceramics. Ceramics are not useful in anything violence related.

Catapult ammo?

[Kay12]

Glass isn't amazing, but thirty attacks happening simultaneously is pretty dangerous no matter what the material (especially if it is a masterwork, and as such really pointy)

As for clay, clay is useful in ceramics. Ceramics are not useful in anything violence related.

Catapult ammo?

If that works and catapults were any good, that'd be awesome.

But I'm still satisfied with clay. I'd just be happier if I had glass.