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Author Topic: The DF2010 Little Questions Thread  (Read 1141407 times)

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Re: The DF2010 Little Questions Thread
« Reply #6526 on: December 26, 2010, 01:56:22 am »

short version: use flow to get them into some cage traps, then drain the traps.
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Re: The DF2010 Little Questions Thread
« Reply #6527 on: December 26, 2010, 02:04:55 am »

short version: use flow to get them into some cage traps, then drain the traps.
This is what I was thinking about, but I am not entirely sure it would work for whatever reason.
Take a look here for ideas on how to catch mermaids whales.
This makes it seem like the only way to do this would be to have some sort of drowning chamber right underneath the ocean or something...



Would this work?: A large area of cage traps directly adjacent to the natural ocean on the same z-level, then line it with floodgates such that I can let the ocean water flow in as I please, then let it do so, and finally, months later, drain the thing and collect the filled cages.

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Re: The DF2010 Little Questions Thread
« Reply #6528 on: December 26, 2010, 06:13:43 am »

well, it would be better to pump it from behind the cages (into an aquifer or off-map is preferred) to get it to constantly drain, kinda like a vacuum cleaner gone mad  ;D

technically, you could do something like this:
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~~~~~~~### %%___ TO DRAIN
~~~~___&_^^___&_ TO FORT
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& is floodgate 1-tile-wide drawbridge. ~ is water. _ is floor. # is wall. ^ is trap. %% is pump (facing right)

that should work, add more traps though obviously
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Re: The DF2010 Little Questions Thread
« Reply #6529 on: December 26, 2010, 06:24:44 am »

whales are building destroyer. Would it lure them in if you build a workshop, then flood the workshop?
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Re: The DF2010 Little Questions Thread
« Reply #6530 on: December 26, 2010, 06:33:31 am »

I think only BUILDINGDESTROYER:2 likes to blow stuff up on purpose. although... you could try.
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Re: The DF2010 Little Questions Thread
« Reply #6531 on: December 26, 2010, 08:42:19 am »

I think only BUILDINGDESTROYER:2 likes to blow stuff up on purpose. although... you could try.
they are building destroyer 2. And I dont embark on oceans so YOU try it :p
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Re: The DF2010 Little Questions Thread
« Reply #6532 on: December 26, 2010, 08:53:38 am »

Uhh can someone tell me why my broker won't go trade even though he has what he requires (NOTHING) and i put the depot as Trader requested at depot and Only broker may trade. And my broker has no job.

EDIT: apparently he went now....
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Re: The DF2010 Little Questions Thread
« Reply #6533 on: December 26, 2010, 09:34:36 am »

Sometimes the broker can be lazy about trading. I find this happens most often when I have a dwarf in a fey mood demanding silk cloth, the dwarven caravan is in town, and they have it.

My broker, without fail, will get a drink, go on break, and have a nap before considering going to the depot.
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Re: The DF2010 Little Questions Thread
« Reply #6534 on: December 26, 2010, 09:43:38 am »

I think only BUILDINGDESTROYER:2 likes to blow stuff up on purpose. although... you could try.
they are building destroyer 2. And I dont embark on oceans so YOU try it :p
Whales are not BUILDINGDESTROYER at all in the current release.  In fact, there don't seem to be any aquatic buildingdestroyers in the current version.  I have an oceanside fortress with something like a dozen whales in captivity, peacefully ignoring the floodgates that seal the chamber they're held in.
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Re: The DF2010 Little Questions Thread
« Reply #6535 on: December 26, 2010, 11:23:58 am »

The DF wiki says that hatches are like doors, but horizontal. Doors can be opened freely when water is around them, but won't close on anything deeper than 1/7 water. Are hatches the same, or can they be opened and closed at will like floodgates?
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Re: The DF2010 Little Questions Thread
« Reply #6536 on: December 26, 2010, 11:38:09 am »

Whales are not BUILDINGDESTROYER at all in the current release.
Ah, my bad. Probably something I have modded in then

Uhh can someone tell me why my broker won't go trade even though he has what he requires (NOTHING) and i put the depot as Trader requested at depot and Only broker may trade. And my broker has no job.

EDIT: apparently he went now....
usually he'll finish current job then go. Trading indeed, is very low priority (even lower then architect and clean self!!) so you should disable most of his jobs.
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Re: The DF2010 Little Questions Thread
« Reply #6537 on: December 26, 2010, 11:45:42 am »

Doors can be opened freely when water is around them, but won't close on anything deeper than 1/7 water.
No, doors will close freely even if occupied by 7/7 water.  They will not close if any creature or object is in the space, but will not be held open by water.  Hatches won't be stopped from closing by water or creatures or items, since they don't block the space they are in from be occupied by a creature or item.
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Re: The DF2010 Little Questions Thread
« Reply #6538 on: December 26, 2010, 12:20:38 pm »

If I have a dwarf restrained to a rope, and deconstruct the floor under him, will he fall 3-zlevels because of the restraint, or fall all the way down?  I kind of want to create a "hanging" zone for executions.  Though either works, because falling so far will still kill him, hanging or not.
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Re: The DF2010 Little Questions Thread
« Reply #6539 on: December 26, 2010, 12:26:02 pm »

When a creature on a rope becomes airborne for any reason (including having the floor under them removed) they instantly detach from the rope.  You can't hang dwarves or anything else from ropes at the moment.
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