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[mr.zimmerman]

Worked like a charm: medium island stopped at 600 something years.

I don't know what I'm more impressed by, the fact that my previous numbers weren't all that exceptional or that the human sprawl everyone has mentioned is much more prevalent then I had imagined.

[vassock]

So this can be used to bring magma up really high?

Magma doesn't pressurize the same way as water. To lift magma you need a pump stack.

EDIT:

Can underground FBs move into the map from underwater? That is, can I secure a cavern by walling off the map edges connected by ground tiles?

It probably depends on whether or not the water touches the edge of the map. If so, then I think they can.

[vassock]

Worked like a charm: medium island stopped at 600 something years.

I don't know what I'm more impressed by, the fact that my previous numbers weren't all that exceptional or that the human sprawl everyone has mentioned is much more prevalent then I had imagined.

600 is better because the civs are more likely to be alive. In 1050 I noticed that non-dwarf civs are missing. Sometimes the goblins will be missing, other times the elves. At 600 they are almost always there with a few exceptions. Big worlds also take much longer to generate per year and also at other stages I believe. So that's 1050 years of a big map vs 600 years of a medium map. Big difference. You should never have to wait a half an hour to generate a map unless you're making a huge map or using an ancient computer.

Since there is no way to attack other tiles that I know of at this time, why bother with a big map? You only play on one tile anyway, and not even all of it. The rest of the map is used to make some calculations, but even the sieges are in part random. It just gives you more to choose from. But if you don't like the hand you're dealt, just regen another medium map.

[vassock]

I don't think I got an answer the last time. Why are traders going insane/berserk in .13? Sure I don't have a trade depot, but shouldn't they just leave?

[Absentia]

Unless something is preventing them from leaving, it sounds like a bug. Merchants are supposed to leave after a month whether they were at a depot or not. Liaisons will hang around until they go insane if they don't get to conduct their meeting, but I assume that's not what you meant by "traders".

[vassock]

No, dwarven and elf traders go insane just standing at the edge of the map. Started with .13 I think. Just had one go berserk, the horse became melancholy and the trader attacked it. Horse killed him. Swarm of my dwarves went to collect the loot. I forbid items, but not before my brewer was kicked in the head by the horse and killed.

[Proteus]

At least in 40d that was normal behavior...
if they didnīt get a valid path to a depot they would stand at the map edge and go insane after a while,
just as you described.
Obviously it is still the case if there is no depot present on the map

[GaxkangtheUnbound]

How would I mash 3 caverns together and get a magma sea on the 10th z-level?

[Urist Imiknorris]

How would I mash 3 caverns together and get a magma sea on the 10th z-level?

[CAVERN_LAYER_COUNT:1] in worldgen.

[GaxkangtheUnbound]

How would I mash 3 caverns together and get a magma sea on the 10th z-level?

[CAVERN_LAYER_COUNT:1] in worldgen.

Thanks!

[sebs]

When I give the order to produce a chain, this happens:

-Smith goes to stockpile and takes a gold bar (I have enough of them)
-When he reaches the forge, he immediately cancels the job: Need gold bars, and leaves. Again, I have enough gold bars.
-He leaves the shop, some other dwarf takes the  bar back to the pile.

What am I doing wrong?

Edit: It's v. 31.12

[GaxkangtheUnbound]

When I give the order to produce a chain, this happens:

-Smith goes to stockpile and takes a gold bar (I have enough of them)
-When he reaches the forge, he immediately cancels the job: Need gold bars, and leaves. Again, I have enough gold bars.
-He leaves the shop, some other dwarf takes the  bar back to the pile.

What am I doing wrong?

First of all, what version?

[sebs]

31.12, so is this a bug?

[GaxkangtheUnbound]

31.12, so is this a bug?

Most likely.
See if it requires a bag of quarry bush leaves for some reason.

[sebs]

Will try, thanks!