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[Squirrelloid]

If you only work them half to death, you should be working them twice as hard!

[umiman]

Okay, gamebreaking bug:

My miners refuse to mine properly at all. They only act like this underground. If I mine anywhere aboveground, they act normal. Since this is hard to explain in words, this is what happens:

This is the normal area:


Designating a square to be dug out:


Dwarves will dig one tile's worth and then leave for a few minutes. It will say they're idle with no job during that time. Sometimes they'll just stand right next to it:


After a few minutes, they'll come back and dig a little again then all leave at the same time again:


In the end, it takes so long to do something that should take a few seconds.

[Diablous]

The system of how personality affects the dwarves could be responsible. Are your miners lazy?

[umiman]

The system of how personality affects the dwarves could be responsible. Are your miners lazy?

No. Besides? There are 8 of them. There's no way they could all act in the exact same time. They will literally all show up at the same time. Dig one tile, then leave.

[Footkerchief]

Yes, that error has been widely reported and is almost certainly due to pathfinding problems.  It's not a problem with personality or labor settings.

[Sean Mirrsen]

Then it's probably related to the pathing engine updating slowly. Happens sometimes. I'll try something like that out later.

edit: ninja'd!

[Org]

Not sure if this has been brought up, but I used an addy spear, and only shatted the bones, Over and over. I only kill them when they bleed out or I get lucky and hit an organ.

[Blooddrive]

I want to throw my hat in with the wealth of the caverns issue.

I broke into my caverns pretty early on. But I only had one major room and a trade depot for the majority of the game.

By the time I hit my first spring I had 44 dwarves. Once I hit summer on the second year I was suddenly attacked by 1 megabeast, 2 forgotten creatures and 4 goblin ambushes all in the space of a month. Needless to say I didn't survive this.My wealth indicators seemed to be just way out of whack for what I would have expected with my large room.

[sethwick]

Heh. Well, nobody's going to stop you, but if you make your dwarves work themselves half to death, either cope with tantrums or provide them with a REALLY nice dining room.

That's not the issue. It makes the game unplayable with higher numbers of dwarfs and really annoying with low numbers. If there was a "force work" option you could turn on and off it would be fine, but babysit every single woodcutter, miner, herbalist, and workshop worker with a long queue and turn on and off their labor whenever they need a drink is simply ridiculous. Either they should not get a bad thought from it (as it is their choice to starve themselves) or they should stop before they get a bad thought or there should be an option. Personally I think they should work for longer than before but should also not get so many bad thoughts from it. These a dwarfs damnit, they shouldn't mind being a little thirsty!

[HammerDave]

I just found an interesting one.

As is my normal habit, I caged most of the stray animals to keep FPS up (though it seems to be running pretty well right now, knock on tower-cap).  Then an immigrant wave hit so some more tasks needed to be queued up to put the lazy bums to work.  So I go to schedule some farm tasks, and behold there's a "milk creature" task to choose from.  Cool I think, finally something to do with all the extra female animals while we wait for them to have babies.

Schedule milking task, wait a minute to see what gets milked, and Melbil farmerdwarf grabs a donkey and starts dragging her to the workshop.  All well and good, but that donkey is supposed to be caged, so some peasant comes along with a "cage animal" job.  They've been fighting over this donkey for something like 10 minutes.   

Bug, or feature?  I'm thinking bug, the "object" is in use by another job and so a struggle like this shouldn't be possible, right?

[Footkerchief]

Heh. Well, nobody's going to stop you, but if you make your dwarves work themselves half to death, either cope with tantrums or provide them with a REALLY nice dining room.

That's not the issue. It makes the game unplayable with higher numbers of dwarfs and really annoying with low numbers. If there was a "force work" option you could turn on and off it would be fine, but babysit every single woodcutter, miner, herbalist, and workshop worker with a long queue and turn on and off their labor whenever they need a drink is simply ridiculous. Either they should not get a bad thought from it (as it is their choice to starve themselves) or they should stop before they get a bad thought or there should be an option. Personally I think they should work for longer than before but should also not get so many bad thoughts from it. These a dwarfs damnit, they shouldn't mind being a little thirsty!

It's a bug that they get thirst/hunger thoughts from voluntarily working late, yeah.  There's pretty much no way to avoid it unless you go around manually canceling jobs.  Sean -- I'm sure you were just joking but let's try to keep the thread on topic, since it's a thread that Toady will have to read carefully and he's already swamped with reports.

[Kode527]

Allright.
I kept wondering why were my dwarves hungry all the time. I still had some fish they could eat. After realizing to "zoom" to the item from stock I saw this:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Are they really that far underground?
Should I just dig there to get my fish?

[Reinecker]

Well it started out by encountering some wolfs. In one of the first few turns I dodge into a pond. I fight a little bit and then either the other wolfs jumped in or I was attacking them while they stood around the pond. I was drowning and fighting the wolfs when all of a sudden I get this message:
"You stab the wolf in the upper body with your bronze short sword, but the attack passes right through!"

[Footkerchief]

Well it started out by encountering some wolfs. In one of the first few turns I dodge into a pond. I fight a little bit and then either the other wolfs jumped in or I was attacking them while they stood around the pond. I was drowning and fighting the wolfs when all of a sudden I get this message:
"You stab the wolf in the upper body with your bronze short sword, but the attack passes right through!"

This is sorta intended behavior -- there's a small chance that you can hit a creature in a wound you already gave them.  It's pretty iffy right now, though.

[Haven]

Had an artifact. The dwarf went to a crafter workshop, asked for bone, and gave me an iron figurine with bone bands. There wasn't any iron in the workshop before, and he leveled in Bone Carving.

Spoiler: Artifact Text (click to show/hide)

Can't help but wonder if the dead dwarf's soul now inhabits the figurine.