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Author Topic: We found a witch, may be burn him?  (Read 3068 times)

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Re: We found a witch, may be burn him?
« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2010, 09:16:59 pm »

This is either terrifying or Hilarious.
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Re: We found a witch, may be burn him?
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2010, 09:20:38 pm »

Spoiler: A witch? BURN HIM! (click to show/hide)

Now really, this is damn hilarious, yet strange.

Hey, at least they don't do stoning there anymore, don't they?
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« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2010, 09:22:30 pm »

I too, believe a man being put to death for ridiculous reasons to be hilarious  :D
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Re: We found a witch, may be burn him?
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2010, 09:25:27 pm »

Sadly, this is relatively common in Africa. Wasn't aware the middle east did it as well.
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Re: We found a witch, may be burn him?
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2010, 09:31:03 pm »

Oh boy... Saudi is at it again. The entire middle east is filled with people who practise black magic, or so the rumors say, so this isn't the only sorcerer, although most of the time, its used in the second sense of the word.

As far as the law goes though, witchcraft is constituted when someone puts a vocal curse on another, tries to predict the future through a mysterious force, or practisces alchemy. Basically, it means you are working with evil genies to do those things (in the religious sense).

Still, Saudi is pretty crazy when it comes to fanaticism.
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Re: We found a witch, may be burn him?
« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2010, 09:31:40 pm »

Despite the fact that they're slightly nicer than most major Islamic powers, they are still ungodly hardline. I'm biting back meaner comments about them, actually.
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Re: We found a witch, may be burn him?
« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2010, 09:32:52 pm »

Who Saudi? Better than most major Islamic powers?
Which powers would those be?
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« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2010, 09:40:04 pm »

I rate there being four major Islamic powers. Iran, Pakistan, the Saudis, and Indonesia.

Iran is as hard-line as they come, Pakistan is so chaotic as to be pretty bad (I take points off for nukes). Indonesia is considerably better.
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Re: We found a witch, may be burn him?
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2010, 10:54:43 pm »

Notice, how they put him up on charges of Sorcery for predicting the future... doesn't the fact that he got caught and didn't know he would be accused prove that he isn't a sorcerer?
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Re: We found a witch, may be burn him?
« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2010, 11:06:15 pm »

Witchcraft is probably one of the vaguer crimes ever invented, but predicting the future isn't the same as omniscience.

Bit curious about snagging him as he went on a pilgrimage though, I wonder if they were afraid he'd taint the place? Or did they not think the reason he was there relevant at all?

Normally I'd also be unsure as to how they'd justify executing a foreign national for crimes committed in his home country, but at the point where you're charging someone with foul sorcery that's probably the least puzzling thing around.
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Re: We found a witch, may be burn him?
« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2010, 11:16:00 pm »

I want to make some joke about him pulling more aggro than his DPS could handle but I'm ashamed to know that much about MMORPGs
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Re: We found a witch, may be burn him?
« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2010, 12:01:51 am »

Bah.>:( Magic is forbidden in Islam, but visit street markets in Jeddah or Riyadh, or even in the shadow of the Ka'bah, and you will find vendors hawking ta'wiz (talismans that are basically magic good luck charms, but because they're purportedly "holy" rather than "magic", it's considered passable.)

Same idea as Christians who would say that witches and magic are abominations, but have crosses with drops of water from Lourdes in them, or St. Christopher medallions.

Old habits die hard, and talismancy and divination are VERY old habits for the human race.
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Re: We found a witch, may be burn him?
« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2010, 12:04:54 am »

True. You seem to know an aweful lot about this.
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« Reply #14 on: April 01, 2010, 08:14:41 pm »

Bah.>:( Magic is forbidden in Islam, but visit street markets in Jeddah or Riyadh, or even in the shadow of the Ka'bah, and you will find vendors hawking ta'wiz (talismans that are basically magic good luck charms, but because they're purportedly "holy" rather than "magic", it's considered passable.)

Same idea as Christians who would say that witches and magic are abominations, but have crosses with drops of water from Lourdes in them, or St. Christopher medallions.

Old habits die hard, and talismancy and divination are VERY old habits for the human race.

Yeah, religion and magic are extremely intertwined...prayer is based on what psychologists would call magical thinking, after all, and look no further than Catholicism or faith healing for examples of magic in American religion.

It stems from the Biblical prohibition against sorcery, which in reality was only against certain forms of magic, since Jewish religion made regular use of divination. For example, when you're reading the book of Samuel (and others) and it refers to David asking God (for example) "Should I go up to Hebron?" and God says, "Yes" and some other extended speech, the actually answer was just "yes." This answer was obtained by a method of divination which isn't entirely understood but involved drawing two cultic objects called the Urim or Thummim, with one corresponding to "Yes" and one to "no."

They also used lots. The point was, this "magic" was supposed to work because God directed it (hell, Mennonites used to use lots to select their pastors) whereas other magic, like necromancy, was forbidden - that's why Saul only resorted to it when he was at his most desperate, and all it got him was news that he'd be dead soon too. But really, what's the difference? Probably the rules were made up by the same people who decided 99% of humanity was unclean to prevent Israelites from eating dinner with foreigners.
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