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Dariush

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Bug or not?
« on: March 29, 2010, 02:09:05 pm »


I've just started learning about how to use pumps. Earlier I built windmills, then pumps, then started building additional ones, then noticed that first pumps made it impossible to build new ones due to submersion, than I destroyed windmills, finidhed pumps, rebuilt it. Now the pumps don't want to work no matter what.  ??? Is this a bug or pumps really should be built AFTER windmills?

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Re: Bug or not?
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2010, 02:18:37 pm »

Build your pumps and your windmill, but do not connect them until the very last connection. Connect all your pumps to each other before that final gear or shaft to the windmill.

Sometimes the connection does not work and you have to start over.

I'm looking again and see how things are, specific to this case. I'd say unbuild all pumps and rebuild them.
« Last Edit: March 29, 2010, 03:44:52 pm by BigD145 »
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Re: Bug or not?
« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2010, 02:25:55 pm »

The "Stable foundation" part says me that your windmill stands on a floor, and thats why it is not connected to the pump below. Deconstruct the windmill, channel the tile above the pump and build the windmill again so that its middle tile is at the channel.
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Re: Bug or not?
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2010, 05:29:07 pm »

The "Stable foundation" part says me that your windmill stands on a floor, and thats why it is not connected to the pump below. Deconstruct the windmill, channel the tile above the pump and build the windmill again so that its middle tile is at the channel.
You don't have to have the windmill's center square channeled out, but if it isn't, the windmill must be built after the thing below it that it would be connected to. That is, a windmill can be built on a solid foundation, but the power it provides is checked only when the windmill itself is built, so you should build your windmills last/after building a gear assembly/axle/whatever underneath where it will be.
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Re: Bug or not?
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2010, 06:36:33 pm »

I'm just going by the wiki:
http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/Windmill

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Standard windmill

   1. Build the windmill.
   2. Excavate a path under it to the center of its base, 1 z-level down.
   3. Add a vertical axle, gear assembly or machine there, which will have power. A floor between the windmill and this is fine, but the machine part below will only receive power if it is built after the windmill itself is finished. If you built the machine part first, you may have to deconstruct and reconstruct it to make it work.
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Re: Bug or not?
« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2010, 08:26:27 pm »

The "Stable foundation" part says me that your windmill stands on a floor, and thats why it is not connected to the pump below. Deconstruct the windmill, channel the tile above the pump and build the windmill again so that its middle tile is at the channel.
You don't have to have the windmill's center square channeled out, but if it isn't, the windmill must be built after the thing below it that it would be connected to. That is, a windmill can be built on a solid foundation, but the power it provides is checked only when the windmill itself is built, so you should build your windmills last/after building a gear assembly/axle/whatever underneath where it will be.

From my experience, that's actually exactly wrong.  If the windmill is on stable foundation (that is, it doesn't have a hole in the floor below it), then build the thing below the windmill AFTER you build the windmill itself.

Edit: In answer to the original post: remove the pump directly below the windmill and rebuild it.  The pumps should then be powered again.
« Last Edit: March 29, 2010, 08:29:04 pm by Malicus »
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Re: Bug or not?
« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2010, 08:32:51 pm »

The stuff on the wiki about building stuff underneath a stable-foundation windmill is, as far as I can tell, taking advantage of an intermittent bug in the machine connection code - if you want it to always work, then the windmill must be hanging.
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Re: Bug or not?
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2010, 07:46:41 am »

In answer to the original post: remove the pump directly below the windmill and rebuild it.  The pumps should then be powered again.
thanks, that worked  :)