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[RedWarrior0]

Give the wagon and beasts of burden the tag for flight. Flood the world in magma. Problem solved.

[shadowclasper]

Give the wagon and beasts of burden the tag for flight. Flood the world in magma. Problem solved.

but boring.

Underground roads don't work I'm afraid, they have to come up for air eventually since you can't hallow out the edge-most tile underground.

As for lots of roads all over the place, yes, this works, and it's a fantastic system. I do it on every map. It keeps the damn things coming in. Now, if you want to make it so that your caravans will ONLY enter on one point, but increase the chances of invaders entering else where. Build a speed bump in your roads and dig a trench around most of the map. the caravans will only travel along the road over this trench that doesn't have a speed bump. Enemies can still enter on any of the 4 sides though (needing only 1 space, not 3) and thus it all works out.

[Naz]

Wow, hell of a response. Thanks for the input guys I've decided to just force a road out through the forest, a skybridge would fuck with my defense layout and I'm too lazy to build all the ramps and tunnels needed to have entrances to deeproads near the edges of the map. so I'm just gonna level some trees to piss off the elves, build a few lovely canopied lanes and if anything decides to try and jump the caravans I'll just bulldoze them with 20-something legendary champion hammerdwarves. Seriously, elves explode if you hit em hard enough, hilarious.

[BigD145]

Caravans come in around the same general areas. It doesn't take much to tunnel all over.

[Sensei]

Long live the interstate!

Elwood Urist: It's 106 miles to Chicago Copperblazes. We got a full tank of gas beer, half a pack of cigarettes rope reed, it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses face socks.
Jake Medtob: Hit Strike it.

[FluffyToast J]

Flood the world in magma.

boring.

Whaaaat?

[shadowclasper]

Flood the world in magma.

boring.

Whaaaat?

It's over done! FOR ARMOK'S SAKE WE CAN THINK OF MORE ORIGINAL WAYS TO SECURE OUR NEED FOR FIRE WITHOUT SIMPLY WASTING IT BY FLOODING THE WORLD! BE INVENTIVE IN YOUR USE OF MAGMA FOOLS! BE IMAGINATIVE! BE POWERFUL IN IT! DO NOT INSULT ARMOK BY SIMPLY AND UNIMAGINATIVELY KILLED EVERYTHING WITH ONE QUICK BURST OF MAGMA! BUILD A HUNDRED THOUSAND MAGMA CANNONS AND DO IT WHENEVER YOU FEEL LIKE IT! BUT DO NOT CUT OFF ALL CHANCES OF SUCH AMAZING ACTION!

[Dorf3000]

If you're going to wall off/dig trenches to force your caravans to appear in one spot, remember that rivers will prevent them from spawning on certain sides.  I have a human caravan that refuses to appear anywhere except on the west side of my map south of the river, never on the road to the north.  They'll send mules down the 1-wide strip around the edge and then through my fortress rather than spawn 10 tiles away from the depot.  I had to build them their own 3-wide bridge along the edge.

[Quantum Toast]

Flood the world in magma.

boring.

Whaaaat?

It's over done! FOR ARMOK'S SAKE WE CAN THINK OF MORE ORIGINAL WAYS TO SECURE OUR NEED FOR FIRE WITHOUT SIMPLY WASTING IT BY FLOODING THE WORLD! BE INVENTIVE IN YOUR USE OF MAGMA FOOLS! BE IMAGINATIVE! BE POWERFUL IN IT! DO NOT INSULT ARMOK BY SIMPLY AND UNIMAGINATIVELY KILLED EVERYTHING WITH ONE QUICK BURST OF MAGMA! BUILD A HUNDRED THOUSAND MAGMA CANNONS AND DO IT WHENEVER YOU FEEL LIKE IT! BUT DO NOT CUT OFF ALL CHANCES OF SUCH AMAZING ACTION!

...ok, flood the moon with magma?

[shadowclasper]

Flood the world in magma.

boring.

Whaaaat?

It's over done! FOR ARMOK'S SAKE WE CAN THINK OF MORE ORIGINAL WAYS TO SECURE OUR NEED FOR FIRE WITHOUT SIMPLY WASTING IT BY FLOODING THE WORLD! BE INVENTIVE IN YOUR USE OF MAGMA FOOLS! BE IMAGINATIVE! BE POWERFUL IN IT! DO NOT INSULT ARMOK BY SIMPLY AND UNIMAGINATIVELY KILLED EVERYTHING WITH ONE QUICK BURST OF MAGMA! BUILD A HUNDRED THOUSAND MAGMA CANNONS AND DO IT WHENEVER YOU FEEL LIKE IT! BUT DO NOT CUT OFF ALL CHANCES OF SUCH AMAZING ACTION!

...ok, flood the moon with magma?

THERE YA GO!

[Naz]

Yknow while we're on our way to the moon to flood it with magma (why? because we can, dammit) we could also build a pressure plate that scratches your ass with arrows from space. Also take the whole "Hammer of Armok" idea but make it orbital....build like 5 of em...and put them over any elven settlement you can find. Or someone could build booze surplus burnoff stack, a chimney with, lets be honest, an eternal flame from burning off any and all excess booze (namely the stuff your dwarves are tired of drinking, is crappy, or is actually a goblin).

[backflip]

Would it be possible to replace an above ground river with a river of magma?  I imagine you'd have to obisidan cap the river intake to start with...

[Shinziril]

In order to make it flow properly, you'd need some hidden grates to recirculate the magma.  But yeah, you could probably do that.

[Deimos56]

Flood the world in magma.

boring.

Whaaaat?

It's over done! FOR ARMOK'S SAKE WE CAN THINK OF MORE ORIGINAL WAYS TO SECURE OUR NEED FOR FIRE WITHOUT SIMPLY WASTING IT BY FLOODING THE WORLD! BE INVENTIVE IN YOUR USE OF MAGMA FOOLS! BE IMAGINATIVE! BE POWERFUL IN IT! DO NOT INSULT ARMOK BY SIMPLY AND UNIMAGINATIVELY KILLED EVERYTHING WITH ONE QUICK BURST OF MAGMA! BUILD A HUNDRED THOUSAND MAGMA CANNONS AND DO IT WHENEVER YOU FEEL LIKE IT! BUT DO NOT CUT OFF ALL CHANCES OF SUCH AMAZING ACTION!

...ok, flood the moon with magma?

Deimos56 has gone stark raving mad!

NO!
You must turn cave-ins off, construct a massive moon in the sky, fill it with magma, flood it with magma, coat its surface in everburning lignite bins, fill it with caged HFS, and then, and only then, will you drop it on the home of the elves!

Deimos56 has recovered from madness!
Where did I go just now?

edit: I suppose 'elves' could be replaced with any other group. As long as it's not the dwarves them... well, even the dwarves themselves, really.

[Retro]

At this rate, nothing will be good enough until somebody floods magma itself with magma.