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[HRE]

Recently my fort was promoted to mountainhome and received the King and his entourage. Nothing remarkable about the lot, except for Cerol Fullstockade, Queen Consort. She is one of those most remarkable creatures: a useful noble.

Mind you, she won't smelt stuff or train critters like the Dungeon Master, and will require nice rooms and stuff, but she arrived dressed in the blue garb of the Fortress Guard (the plebeian one, not the snotty royals), with the title of "Guard". Her preferences screen still says "The queen consort will not work", but she does!

As soon as she arrived, she rolled up her sleeves and started hauling stuff, going to the depths of my exploratory mining and bringing ore to the smelters. Cleaning goblin blood from the walls of the arena, then moving corpses to the refuse piles. Going to the kitchen and moving roasts to barrels. On and on. I don't think she has slept in her Royal Chambers yet. She doesn't seem to be activated in the Guard, but she wears their colours while hauling stuff around. I love her.

For the first time, I find I actually want to pamper a noble. I would like your suggestions on how best to reward HRM Cerol for truly being a Queen of the People.

All Hail the Useful Queen!

[Gergination]

I'd kill her mercifully before your dwarves tear her apart with their bare hands.

Dwarves are like elephants, they never forget.

[Blargityblarg]

The thing is, they often never notice, either.

Build her a statue. Drop it on one of the useless nobles.

[smokingwreckage]

Make sure she has an item in her room to match each of her preferences. Preferably an item that matches them all at once.

It would be nice to be able to tell an engraver to detail the minutiae of her life into stone.

[Tarran]

Give her a battle hammer and armor and dump her on a squad of 7 goblins.



what? there something wrong with that?

[NW_Kohaku]

This sounds like something that should be reported as a bug, if it has not been already.  Even if it isn't a "bad bug", it sounds like a glitch in the programming that Toady should be aware of.

If she's listed as a guard, I'm going to take a wild stab and say that something about her previous WorldGen-era job promotions broke DF's brain, and left her as a non-noble, but also as a non-guard for the purposes of enabling default labors (that is, hauling).

As far as I know, there is no actual special code to prevent nobles from laboring, they simply have their labor menu rendered inaccessable, and all their labors turned off by default.  This opens up exploits if they somehow get turned on.  Toady will probably want to go back to the noble coding at some point, and make there be something more substantive in noble coding so that these sorts of things stop happening.

[Kyronea]

The thing is, they often never notice, either.

Build her a statue. Drop it on one of the useless nobles.

Better yet, MAKE it out of one of the useless nobles.

[bombcar]

I don't think the king & queen ever make requests.

[Quietust]

Two forts in a row, my queen consort had all of her hauling labors enabled when she arrived. The king had everything turned off, though, like I'd expect. The second of those two forts, the queen consort was also a guard - she arrived in full armor (and TWO sets of clothes), then dropped the armor on the floor once her migrant status wore off.

[Retro]

Well, the king + queen exist in worldgen, so whatever their previous professions are and worldly experience is what they would retain. Possibly the skill-less king was always a king and he married his wife who was a guard later?

[HRE]

Make sure she has an item in her room to match each of her preferences. Preferably an item that matches them all at once.

This sounds like something that should be reported as a bug, if it has not been already.

Yeah, I'm thinking bug as well. She's still happily hauling stuff, but I can't give her anything she likes because... she doesn't like anything! The queen, king and advisor are all missing the green paragraph in their profiles that lists likes and dislikes. All the other nobles (and commoners) have them as normal, even the guards that arrived with them, but not those three.

So, she's not only useful, she's also a cheap date. Not your typical noble for sure. Let's see how the situation develops.

Edited to add:
screenshot:

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Also, the wiki says "Aside from his room and furniture requirements and the occasional demand, the king issues no mandates. The king also doesn't seem to have preferences for particular materials or objects."

...So, is the lack of likes normal then? I have had kings before, but I don't recall noticing that (I'll have to look for a save file). If that's the case, then the original question stands: How do I pamper the useful queen?

Cheers.

[Raging Mouse]

You pamper the useful queen with a *bed* masterfully studded with steel and gold, that menaces with spikes of masterfully set star ruby and crystal glass.

[dwarfguy2]

give her own private mini-fort with a crew of workers to build it for her. complete with megaprojects, food production, and it's own military.

[Jacob/Lee]

I don't see any noble as useless, I see some as "more useful" though. All nobles except the Dungeon Master, Bookkeeper, and Hammerer I see as useful for haulers,cleaners,lever pullers, etc. While the Dungeon Master tames, Bookkeeper records stockpile records and the Hammerer gives out punishment.

[Tarran]

Here is my list of useful nobles, the plus or minus is the usefulness compared to the requirements.

+++++Bookkeeper
+++Dungeon master
+++Broker
+Sheriff
Philosopher
Mayor
Manager
-Tax collector
--Hammerer
---Count/Countess/Consort/whatever
----Advisor
-----Royal Consort
-----King/Queen