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[Jopax]

Then i give up, reason is hard to counter with the rule of cool

[Pandarsenic]

Then i give up, reason is hard to counter with the rule of cool

Your JOB is to counter reason with the Rule of SCIENCE!

Lasers and railguns (as well as their weaker but easier-to-make cousins, Gauss guns / coilguns) have no recoil.

[dragnar]

What? Railguns are recoil-less? The big guns that fire bits of metal at well over the speed of sound? If I remember correctly, those things need repaired after a few shots because the recoil rips them apart.

As for Von Neumann Machines, make sure to build in an override code to shut them all down. They tend to devour a little too indiscriminately.

For now, lets just get to the university. As awesome as our future plans might be, we aren't going to get anything done just sitting around.

[Pandarsenic]

That's not the recoil, it's the stress on the rails from the projectile leaving at such high speeds. If you have enough bot to, say, switch out the rails... :3

[dragnar]

The law of conservation of momentum has no (known) exceptions, unlike most physical laws. If a projectile that has mass leaves the barrel, the gun will be pushed backwards.

[LeoLeonardoIII]

What GryphGlyph said, and also this:

3: We should create a Genuine Star Wars Communicator that we can give to the boy, to earn his loyalty. It should contain a microphone that sends its signal back to a Radio Receiver stationed in our lab and plugged into the wall. This will let us spy on him and his friends. It should also have a speaker so we can give him advice or commands. Tell him the button turns it on or off, but the button actually just turns his speaker on or off. The microphone is always on.

Requires: Invent "Microphone", Invent "Radio Receiver", Invent "Speaker"

And I love the idea of making maglocks for the thugs' stashes. Now we just need some magnets ...

[Virex]

Can we just test our drug on the rat already? we need to get something done.

[Neruz]

That's not the recoil, it's the stress on the rails from the projectile leaving at such high speeds. If you have enough bot to, say, switch out the rails... :3

Alternately, use maglev rails so that nothing is actually physically touching anything else; you now have a super-rapid-firing smokeless soundless heatless high-velocity kinetic impactor.

There is a very good reason why the military is extremely interested in railguns.



Also dragnar, railguns do technically have recoil, but it's an extremely complicated recoil due to the way the magnetic forces work - you get recoil directly backwards, as well as recoil perpendicular to the rails. However, the correct design can use that recoil to load the next slug, thus creating a 'recoilless' rifle in that the holder feels no recoil.


The other thing is that unlike in a chemical explosive, Railguns and Coilguns waste very little energy; with a gunpowder charge, not all of the force goes into the bullet, in fact quite a lot is 'wasted' as the gas tries to expand in all directions, a Railgun or Coilgun in comparison has a much better ratio, which means they can accelerate the same projectile to the same speed as a normal gun, but suffer less recoil than the chemical equivilant.



Railguns also have much higher velocities than normal chemical guns, which means you can use really tiny bullets and still blow the ass out of whatever you're pointing at.

[IronyOwl]

Can we just test our drug on the rat already? we need to get something done.

This. We have exactly one thing we've come relatively close to agreeing on.

[xtank5]

Alternately, use maglev rails so that nothing is actually physically touching anything else; you now have a super-rapid-firing smokeless soundless heatless high-velocity kinetic impactor.

Not soundless.  There is a sonic-boom.

Also:  Drug the rat.

[Neruz]

Alternately, use maglev rails so that nothing is actually physically touching anything else; you now have a super-rapid-firing smokeless soundless heatless high-velocity kinetic impactor.

Not soundless.  There is a sonic-boom.

Only if your projectile is supersonic; it doesn't have to be.

Launching railroad spikes at subsonic velocities is going to fuck anyone up. Not so good against a tank, but lethal against any poor bastard out in the open.

[dragnar]

Also dragnar, railguns do technically have recoil, but it's an extremely complicated recoil due to the way the magnetic forces work - you get recoil directly backwards, as well as recoil perpendicular to the rails. However, the correct design can use that recoil to load the next slug, thus creating a 'recoilless' rifle in that the holder feels no recoil.

Huh, interesting. I never knew that.

Anyway, yeah, lets test the chemicals on the rat, we can't just discuss things forever.

[xtank5]

But we don't want to go subsonic.  It would hurt our PRIDE too much to make a subsonic man-killer, when we could make a supersonic tank-killer. Besides the boom would be one of two, and booms are awesome.

[Neruz]

But we don't want to go subsonic.  It would hurt our PRIDE too much to make a subsonic man-killer, when we could make a supersonic tank-killer. Besides the boom would be one of two, and booms are awesome.

There's nothing wrong with planting railroad spikes into people's foreheads in suave but stylish silence.

The big supersonic tank-killers have too much recoil to be real assault weapons, they'll make lovely heavy weapons though.

[RAM]

The big supersonic tank-killers have too much recoil to be real assault weapons, they'll make lovely heavy weapons though.

I just don't understand, the gun is too big so you make it smaller?!?

The correct solution is to make whatever is using the gun bigger... If you are going small then you need something that can autonomously burrow into people's brains. If you want to turn your anti-tank railgun into an anti-personnel weapon, just load it with grapeshot...

Holes in the ground are satisfying, but boring. A city riddled with holes where billions of pieces of microscopic shrapnel tore through it and embedded themselves several metres into the ground underneath is a much more atmospheric place to have you zombies/mutants/death machines wandering around in...