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[martinuzz]

Yeah, it's an old, and apparently less well known trick than I thought.
There used to be a lot of tricks like this on the wiki, but I've noticed that the updated wiki has lost a lot of old good content.
Someone is being overly enthousiastic with cleaning it up.

Nvm I didn't see that this was a necro from 2010

[MarcAFK]

As I recall melting down coins is more effective, especially combined with using a minecart to scatter the stacks.

[Libash_Thunderhead]

Yeah, but you can just use more ordinary thing like battle axe because it is faster.
A stack of coins = hundreds of melting jobs.

[Edward_Tohr]

Yeah, but you can just use more ordinary thing like battle axe because it is faster.
A stack of coins = hundreds of melting jobs.

That'll work for iron and steel and such, but weapons and armor made of adamantine require three times as many wafers. So instead of spending one bar to get one and a half, you spend three wafers to still only get one and a half back. If you want to dupe adamantine, you've got to split stacks.

Plus, the coin method lets you dupe non weapons-grade metals. Just in case you need 300 bars of lay pewter for your next colorful megaproject.

[soul4hdwn]

As I recall melting down coins is more effective, especially combined with using a minecart to scatter the stacks.

i'm still struggling to understand minecarts, this might need a full step by step assistance.  potentially same as weaponizing minecarts for traps


coin splitting up in traders gets painful on repeating commands and i'm not sure how efficient of a macro i can make.  a coinstar room didn't work for splitting up. prefered metals were platinum (just in case), silver (hammers/maces), and zinc (lightest cage metal).


if someone honestly wanted to cheat, they'd make a reaction that makes 2 or more of a 1 bar return melting item.

[Loci]

Yeah, it's an old, and apparently less well known trick than I thought.
There used to be a lot of tricks like this on the wiki, but I've noticed that the updated wiki has lost a lot of old good content.
Someone is being overly enthousiastic with cleaning it up.

Something like this page perhaps: http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Stupid_dwarf_trick

which not only has a prettified version of this trick, but also includes a newer vertical version which doesn't rely on creatures not jumping.

[soul4hdwn]

Yeah, it's an old, and apparently less well known trick than I thought.
There used to be a lot of tricks like this on the wiki, but I've noticed that the updated wiki has lost a lot of old good content.
Someone is being overly enthousiastic with cleaning it up.

Something like this page perhaps: http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Stupid_dwarf_trick

which not only has a prettified version of this trick, but also includes a newer vertical version which doesn't rely on creatures not jumping.

thats precisely where the original is... unless you mean the tower method, of which this must not be made from constructions on bottom most level and also smoothened.  the well doesn't always seem to prevent goblin from escaping from dwarf attempting to pit.

[martinuzz]

As I recall melting down coins is more effective, especially combined with using a minecart to scatter the stacks.

i'm still struggling to understand minecarts, this might need a full step by step assistance.  potentially same as weaponizing minecarts for traps


coin splitting up in traders gets painful on repeating commands and i'm not sure how efficient of a macro i can make.  a coinstar room didn't work for splitting up. prefered metals were platinum (just in case), silver (hammers/maces), and zinc (lightest cage metal).


if someone honestly wanted to cheat, they'd make a reaction that makes 2 or more of a 1 bar return melting item.

I am a bit confused as to how I can split a coinstack.
I put a coinstack in a minecart (a wooden one), and propelled it with 4 auto-propulsion ramps, into a gold minecart. Sure enough, the stack of coins flew out, and over the gold minecart. But it did not split. It's still a stack of 500 coins. How do I get them to split?

[Libash_Thunderhead]

That'll work for iron and steel and such, but weapons and armor made of adamantine require three times as many wafers.

Ah, thank you. It's good to know.