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[Robsoie]

Not sure if they can swim, but they can jump in water and kick you to death there as i saw with a previous character.
They can teleport and stealth does not work for them, they'll see you wherever you are and rush to you.

[Rumrusher]

Not sure if they can swim, but they can jump in water and kick you to death there as i saw with a previous character.
They can teleport and stealth does not work for them, they'll see you wherever you are and rush to you.

less teleport and more spawn in a new unit, though I guess you can now knock folks out if you apply blunt force trauma to their heads now.

I'm going to see if it's possible to modify rumors and if saying the right rumor could cause someone to get lynched.

[BeardedShrimp]

Was told to seek and kill a Roc who is terrorizing dwarves at their lair. Guy I was with ran away like he was freaking Road Runner. Got double-teamed and died.

[Robsoie]

Ran into a Vault

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Looks like i was lucky, unlike a previous character, the weak guardians were the ones with 360 vision, while the stronger one had the normal vision.

The weak ones named "Dead Attendant"

I killed 4 of those, fortunately they didn't come in pack but still while they didn't wounded me (out of bruising), they could take a lot of punishment before being destroyed. But the multiattack/dodge tactic worked well to avoid getting hit much.

The strong ones named "Messenger of Eb", this one was a lasher

I had 2 next to each other, but lucky me they were looking in a different direction, so i could :

destroy both of them, even one-hit destroy the first one.

Question related to loot

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The divine material is super light, and is said better than steel but lesser than adamantine.
But still i'm wondering, what is actually better :
divine cap or iron helm ?
helm has more coverage apparently, so wouldn't using the divine cap makes it in fact easier to kill my character ?
Already the 1 shot kill on one of the angle that had such cap does not seem to hint about divine cap being any good

[pisskop]

Caps offer less coverage, which afaik is simulated as a percent chance to bypass that particular piece of armor.  So a cap might only protect 50% of a head (i.e. a 50% chance to 'fail') and 1/2 attacks will ignore it.

So the helm may be better, but heavier.  If you can handle the weight go for the helm.  If you dont plan on getting hit obvs the cap is superior.

[Robsoie]

Thanks, i'll keep that helm then, as after that long adventuring i have Expert in armor so i can afford a lot without losing much speed (currently full iron + some food and i'm at 1.000 of speed, what a difference with early game in which i was at less than 0.5 with full iron), hopefully it will be better once i get more armor levels in case i must sprint.

Hopefully if i can find some more actual armor made of divine metal instead of only clothing, it would be a lot helpfull to bring the weight down.

edit :

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killed 2 "Messenger of Eb Axeman", except that both of them had no axe, only shields.
On the 4 i destroyed only 1 had a weapon, the lasher,  a "long blistered metal" lash

I wonder if it's a bug or if only 1 type of divine weapon can be generated, and so the guardians assigned to something else than this weapon are out of luck. It would explain why i killed in battle 2 of them that i could not insta-drop that easily

[Nikow]

Was told to seek and kill a Roc who is terrorizing dwarves at their lair. Guy I was with ran away like he was freaking Road Runner. Got double-teamed and died.

They laughed like hell, when They found fool, who was stupid enough to chalange Roc. If you meet any in future, lie on ground in sneaking mode and do not move, even a little...

Thanks, i'll keep that helm then, as after that long adventuring i have Expert in armor so i can afford a lot without losing much speed (currently full iron + some food and i'm at 1.000 of speed, what a difference with early game in which i was at less than 0.5 with full iron), hopefully it will be better once i get more armor levels in case i must sprint.

Hopefully if i can find some more actual armor made of divine metal instead of only clothing, it would be a lot helpfull to bring the weight down.

edit :

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killed 2 "Messenger of Eb Axeman", except that both of them had no axe, only shields.
On the 4 i destroyed only 1 had a weapon, the lasher,  a "long blistered metal" lash

I wonder if it's a bug or if only 1 type of divine weapon can be generated, and so the guardians assigned to something else than this weapon are out of luck. It would explain why i killed in battle 2 of them that i could not insta-drop that easily

How are you training your Armor skills? I must be hited by some weak animal or if i will be wearing it it will be enough?

[Rumrusher]

hmm I really should test out that adventurers being I have no mouth and I must scream by making one and swapping out immediately just to commune with them.

[smjjames]

hmm I really should test out that adventurers being I have no mouth and I must scream by making one and swapping out immediately just to commune with them.

Example?

[pisskop]

So, my journey across the medium-wide world comes to a conclusion with 2 dragons in side-by-side lairs to slay:

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I, the elf, started on the lower-right, south of the eastern mountains and my target is on the west of the upper-left mountains

Across the continent baby!

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-Next night, Bogeys attacked.  I was bitten in the right eye, its gore
-I crossed a river and climbed a tree, the boogeys faded away as I clutched
   the tree.  As an elf I are really confused
-I wrestle a snapping turtle, and when tired I make it talk and we end combat
-I am assaulted by a stray hammerdwarf who followed me around.  He admitted
   to being a leuitenit to a 'boss'
-The hammerdwarf *Okust ustrulusnuo was scared off by horses I cast 'growth'
   on, allowing me to shot him in the back of his right leg
-I winzors.  interesting point on animals scaring soldiers.
   elf ally unofficial
-I took his pig tail hood as a token.  I save and quit for night.

   -02OCT14-

-Human Axeman *Diced Civividemcripta 'SplashedTax' has agreed to help me slay
   the dragon(s)
-I forgot my food bag, so I returned to the scene of my ambush and got it
-A second dwarf, a macedwarf, ambushed me but them fled when he saw my
   companion, who chased him off and knocked him out.
-While I waited for the macedwarf to recover to ask him his name, a human
   lasher *Eumma Aestater has agreed to help me saly the dragon(s)
-We all stand idly by an unconcious dwarf bandit, waiting for his awakening
-Picture 016 - I will consider puting picture numbers in occassionally, as
   reference
-In pic 016, the dwarf awoke, and nobody attacked him until he responded to
  my question, whoch was about his name.
-We kill him, loot the corpse.
-We cross a river and before dark more bandits are in the area.
-I consider two interactions, one to nerf zeds and one to ally wild animals
   with elves, somehow.
-I save and quit for now.
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And accompanying pictures

Spoiler: 014 (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: 015 (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: 016 (click to show/hide)

[Sirbug]

I decided to attack my retured fortress and see what happens. Lots of retching dwarves in the surface, ready to be massacred.

Too bad I trained and equiped my military too well. Time to try again with someone more armour-piercing.

[smjjames]

I'm encountering some strange lag that would be normally associated with crowded towns or dark tower sites, only problem, I'm walking in the middle of nowhere, there SHOULDN'T be anything causing lag.

Making a bug report, hopefully people take it seriously

[Robsoie]

How are you training your Armor skills? I must be hited by some weak animal or if i will be wearing it it will be enough?

Apparently the best way is to exploit how the game work and get hit repeatedly by weak animal.
But in the case of my adventurer, i don't do that and i observe that with normal gameplay, my armor skill is continuously improving.
I think the key is to get full armor (iron if possible) , and adventuring in the wilderness, you will be fighting things a lot, and because your adventurer (even demigod) is still in its early adventure, your character will still be hit a lot , but most of those hit will be "deflected" by your armor (due to the importance of being full armored with best possible items at the beginning).
And that will train a lot the Armor skill.

When i create a new adventurer (demigod i mean) i always set the armor to Skilled
After a lot of adventuring , i was at Proficient and very close to Talented when i entered the mentionned Vault.

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The weaker angelic guardians are punch/kick users, they have no weapon, and i noticed punch/kick hit you much more times than the stronger angelic guardians weapons.
It means with the +30 weaker angelic guardians i managed to defeat (all of them 1 vs 1), i have been hit a very lot (most "deflected" with several heavy bruising).

Now that i am out of the Vault, i noticed my armor skill is at Great , and half-way to Master.
It means those fights with 30 weaker angelic guardians helped my armor skill to go from Proficient to Talented , then Talented to Adept, then Adept to Expert, then Expert to Professional, then Professional to Accomplished, and finally reached Great.

So it looks like if you want to have your armor skill growing fast, you need to be hit several time, and probably why people usually exploit weak animals.
Much less risky than weaker angelic guardians (as i had a lot of heavy bruising despite full iron armor, possible that with lesser armor you could just die)

[pisskop]

I had a chat with a dragon, by sneaking up to him and blessing him with speech.  He wouldn't tell me his name, preferring instead

'Get away from me!'

but he was quite happy to tell me all about his family, the area, and how inevitable my kills were.  I snuck away and fetched my companions from their campfire.  Time to kill that bastard for not telling me his name!

This is also confirmation that sneak is alive and well in this version, just apparently very, very overpowered.  I was right in his face with decent skillz, but still.


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Wait, do dragons attack elves on sight?  Id imagine so, but elves are pretty inoffensive.

[Rumrusher]

hmm I really should test out that adventurers being I have no mouth and I must scream by making one and swapping out immediately just to commune with them.

Example?

well it seems that you can't really ask them about any of their past adventures or fame since anyone you jump into has no idea about it, which means you can't bring it up as a rumor the rumor menu is lock out until the unit overhears any dialog, also it was inevitable is one of the only few options that exits the topic rumor menu, like all the other options don't clear the check and pops you out of the menu so I guess some lines are pure cosmetic and others that does stuff.  though it's a shame that peasants don't take up the call for adventure in front of your eyes, though this does explain why they don't know jack.