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[Skorpion]

Well, I've been to san francisco, and the accent is very fabulous, so to speak.

However, none of the gay people I know actually speak like that.

[G-Flex]

Hm, another question.  Gays, of course, are attracted to the same gender (I use gender instead of sex, so sue me ), but they take on behavior of the opposite gender?  I would figure that gay men would be attracted to especially manly men, and the reverse for women.  And by that logic... do gay men find feminine behavior attractive?

"Gay people" aren't any sort of monolithic group. Like anyone else, they're attracted to different things, and gay men aren't necessarily more feminine than straight men.

Like I said earlier, one reason this might seem to be the case is that if someone's already diverging from what's expected of them in terms of gender roles and sexuality, they probably have less reason in general to stick to them in other ways; e.g. someone who's openly gay doesn't really have much as much reason to try sticking to what most people see as "masculine" anymore; they have more incentive to act naturally, in a way.

[Muz]

I have nothing against someone's sexual orientation. However, I don't like that gay accent, and that is one of the reasons why, I, on average dislike "gays". If you want to be homosexual, fine. If you're going to spank my ass and call me "dahhling", and flap your hand around like a dead fish when you talk, that gets very annoying. It makes real homosexuals look bad.

I also hate it that people who try to be gay tend to pick up that "soft" stereotype first. I don't think that most people like that are even really homosexual, they're just acting like it, because it's some fetish. I know I'm straight, but I don't go around acting like Johnny Bravo.

As for where it comes from, I think some people just didn't know how to depict obviously gay people in comedies and stuff. So, just like you have drunk Irish/Scottish, sexist Arabians, pro-nazi Germans, tea-drinking English, fat uncultured Americans... you have that feminine gay stereotype.

[Eagleon]

Hm, another question.  Gays, of course, are attracted to the same gender (I use gender instead of sex, so sue me ), but they take on behavior of the opposite gender?  I would figure that gay men would be attracted to especially manly men, and the reverse for women.  And by that logic... do gay men find feminine behavior attractive?

"Gay people" aren't any sort of monolithic group. Like anyone else, they're attracted to different things, and gay men aren't necessarily more feminine than straight men.

Like I said earlier, one reason this might seem to be the case is that if someone's already diverging from what's expected of them in terms of gender roles and sexuality, they probably have less reason in general to stick to them in other ways; e.g. someone who's openly gay doesn't really have much as much reason to try sticking to what most people see as "masculine" anymore; they have more incentive to act naturally, in a way.

This. Not at all attracted to "feminine" behavior, except in women, and even there it's pretty lame sometimes. Though I don't count apparently because I make every sexuality ever 'invented' worse HI DAKK I like derp trollpurse <3

I know a few people that are, but they're pretty few, and they don't go completely overboard with it.

I have nothing against someone's sexual orientation. However, I don't like that gay accent, and that is one of the reasons why, I, on average dislike "gays". If you want to be homosexual, fine. If you're going to spank my ass and call me "dahhling", and flap your hand around like a dead fish when you talk, that gets very annoying. It makes real homosexuals look bad.

I'm with South Park completely on this one. The 'f'-bag should be reserved for obnoxious people trying too hard to get attention, re: this. Too much fun to say. I've never seen anyone this bad, but I live in the midwest and I don't make it a habit of associating with people who enjoy that kind of behavior, haha. I'm sure it happens.

[G-Flex]

That's getting into really dangerous territory there. Some people simply expect gay people to act "normal", and get extremely offended if they're at all open about their sexuality in public (yes, some people actually get offended by gay guys talking about sex or holding hands or whatever to the same degree that your average straight person would) or otherwise aren't 100% the same as your Average Society-Approved Straight Guy in their behavior, which is pretty bigoted in itself.

Of course, there's a difference between this and being obnoxious about it. After all, a lot of straight/non-sexuality-specific stereotypes are obnoxious as hell too.

I'm not really sure why someone making hand gestures would be obnoxious, although I guess it might seem cliche and stereotypical enough these days to become so.

I'm also not sure why effeminate manner of speech would be considered obnoxious (after all, women tend to be pretty effeminate and nobody seems to mind), but I guess the same reasoning might apply.

Myself, I don't really care much about those things unless it's pretty clear they're just adhering to a harmful stereotype.

[moocowmoo]

I had several classmates who were gay and they definitely had the accent, or lisp. I live in Hawaii so I don't think it's regional, unless they pick it up from TV? I don't like very flamboyant displays of femininity either, just like I can't stand guys who act super macho all the time. Comes across as contrived.

[sonerohi]

A kid in my class, who had a very strong Southern accent, adopted this accent when he came out of the closet. The accent makes me want to shoot him.

[Dakk]

Hm, another question.  Gays, of course, are attracted to the same gender (I use gender instead of sex, so sue me ), but they take on behavior of the opposite gender?  I would figure that gay men would be attracted to especially manly men, and the reverse for women.  And by that logic... do gay men find feminine behavior attractive?

"Gay people" aren't any sort of monolithic group. Like anyone else, they're attracted to different things, and gay men aren't necessarily more feminine than straight men.

Like I said earlier, one reason this might seem to be the case is that if someone's already diverging from what's expected of them in terms of gender roles and sexuality, they probably have less reason in general to stick to them in other ways; e.g. someone who's openly gay doesn't really have much as much reason to try sticking to what most people see as "masculine" anymore; they have more incentive to act naturally, in a way.

This. Not at all attracted to "feminine" behavior, except in women, and even there it's pretty lame sometimes. Though I don't count apparently because I make every sexuality ever 'invented' worse HI DAKK I like derp trollpurse <3

Its true you know >:C
Though you guys aren't as bad as Chris Crocker, godamnit, that guy alone has probably set the gay acceptance movement back a few decades by himself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8JPY-CuR04

This made me want to gouge me eyes out.

[Footkerchief]

Though you guys aren't as bad as Chris Crocker, godamnit, that guy alone has probably set the gay acceptance movement back a few decades by himself.

I read this as "Chris Tucker" and I was like, I didn't think that scene was that bad.  (Or even gay necessarily.  I don't even know)

[Dakk]

I lol'd, thank you.

Today I met this guy who is taking gastronomy classes on me university, and there's lots of gay people in gastronomy it seems, don't ask me why, I'm a lawschool student.
Anyway, by talking to him I notice he has the accent, but I can feel he's not forcing it at all. I actualy asked him about it and he said it just came naturally to him after he hit his teenager years, hormones kicked in and realized he was gay. This is weird, I only did notice I was gay when I became a teen, but I didn't get any funny accent, sure, I look like a damn twink and sometimes do some stereotypical gay mannerisms (I'm very liberal about how I use my wrist), but I talk normally.

Was I cheated out of my gay accent or what? Sure, my voice isn't exactly manly (I still sound like I did when I was 15), but still, its hard to understand. Maybe it only comes natural to the fabulous kind of gay? Which I'm not, I'm vain, but not fabulously vain.

[Sergius]

I have a hypothesis.

Maybe the only reason there aren't more heteros talking like that, is because the societal norm is that males have to be all manly and stuff. So people who'd "naturally" talk like that restrain themselves so they're accepted by their social group. You see all the time, when someone talks a bit "gay" he gets teased.

So, once someone declares himself gay, he doesn't have any reason to avoid sounding "gay" or feminine or whatever. And maybe there's a lot more straight people that would have that "accent" if it wasn't so frowned upon.

I don't have a way to verify this hypothesis tho.

[moocowmoo]

I have a hypothesis.

Maybe the only reason there aren't more heteros talking like that, is because the societal norm is that males have to be all manly and stuff. So people who'd "naturally" talk like that restrain themselves so they're accepted by their social group. You see all the time, when someone talks a bit "gay" he gets teased.

So, once someone declares himself gay, he doesn't have any reason to avoid sounding "gay" or feminine or whatever. And maybe there's a lot more straight people that would have that "accent" if it wasn't so frowned upon.

I don't have a way to verify this hypothesis tho.

I seriously doubt it. You "naturally" talk the way you hear people talking around you growing up. It's not like if someone weren't "conditioned to be masculine" then they would revert to their animal nature and speak with a gay lisp. If you grew up hearing the gay accent a lot in the household THEN it would be natural to speak it.

[Footkerchief]

I seriously doubt it. You "naturally" talk the way you hear people talking around you growing up. It's not like if someone weren't "conditioned to be masculine" then they would revert to their animal nature and speak with a gay lisp.

I'm confused.  You say that people talk the way they heard others talk while growing up, but you don't believe that they could be conditioned to be masculine as part of that process?

[moocowmoo]

I'm confused.  You say that people talk the way they heard others talk while growing up, but you don't believe that they could be conditioned to be masculine as part of that process?

I'm saying how you learned, is your natural way of speaking. So it's not as if you would "naturally" use an accent if you didn't grow up hearing it. Like it would be ridiculous to assert that more Americans would naturally have a French accent, if it weren't conditioned out of them by people speaking English.

[Nikov]

*Insert French / Gay joke here*

- Fixed