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[lastofthelight]

I propose that when the Carp Bug is fixed in the next version, the bug be memorialized by the creation of a Dire Carp Megabeast, the mother of the current spawn of Carp. And lo; the Dire Carp is not dead, for that is not dead which can eternal lie, and with strange eons of time, every Dwarven Fortress shall die.

[Neonivek]

I fully agree that Deadly Carp should be referenced by some sort of (Semi)Megabeast once they are made much less deadly.

I don't agree that it should be called a Dire Carp... Too Dungeons and Dragons.

UNFORTUNATELY I cannot think of better names for the ultimate Carp...

All I can think of is: Golden Carp, Mother Carp, Carpken, God of Carp, or a Carp that has a generated name that appears in Legends in a similar way that Demons do... Like

"Sven Killergut is the God of the Carp and is associated with Death, Pregnancy, and Ore."

[zagibu]

Why not just call it "The Carp". Or Carpzilla. Carpus the Great. Dreadcarpen McDeath. Bloodcarp. Red-painter of streams. "He, who dwelleth in rivers and giveth death".

[gurra_geban]

Carpman?

[umiman]

Turn it into one of the pit fiends. Also make elephants into pit fiends as well.

[Dasleah]

The 'Carp Bug'? I don't get it. What's bugged about Carps? I know they're lethal and everything, and everyone loves to take a ride on the bandwagon, but looking at their raws, they're no more deadly than any other non-vermin fish out there.

[Draco18s]

quote:Originally posted by Dasleah:
<STRONG>The 'Carp Bug'? I don't get it. What's bugged about Carps? I know they're lethal and everything, and everyone loves to take a ride on the bandwagon, but looking at their raws, they're no more deadly than any other non-vermin fish out there.</STRONG>

......do you know big carp in real life are?

THEY'RE 14 INCHES LONG!

The "carp bug" as it were is due to the fact that Toady One simply used a default bite attack for the carp. The carp, half the size of a dwarf, has a bite attack which inflicts 1-6 damage points. Compared to the strength of a dwarven punch (1-2 damage points), it is easy to see that it is simply an oversight and will be fixed some time in the future.

Read the wiki page.

[lastofthelight]

The Carp wiki page is one of the great highlights of playing this game. While the 'real' wikipedia is scientific, sterile, and - well, I'm a scientist, so I won't say boring, but...while useful, lines like

"The carp's status as a cold-blooded dwarf killer is no doubt due to the fact that Toady One simply used a default bite attack for the carp (as with most of the new beings in v0.27.169.33a)." ...(etc)

And: "Run. Run and never look back."

[Dasleah]

quote:Originally posted by Draco18s:
<STRONG>

......do you know big carp in real life are?

THEY'RE 14 INCHES LONG!

The "carp bug" as it were is due to the fact that Toady One simply used a default bite attack for the carp. The carp, half the size of a dwarf, has a bite attack which inflicts 1-6 damage points. Compared to the strength of a dwarven punch (1-2 damage points), it is easy to see that it is simply an oversight and will be fixed some time in the future.

Read the wiki page.</STRONG>

Well, if we assume that DF Carp are the Common Carp, then I don't know where you're getting the 14 inches long assumption from. See Wikipedia. From that, I'd say that their SIZE needs to be bumped up to 4 or something.

And once again, they're just as deadly as any other non-vermin fish out there. If it's the raws that are wrong, then that's not a bug, it's just.... wrong raws, really. A lot of creatures have 1:6:GORE for an attack.

If they're that bad, why not just release a Realistic Damage Mod, and give them 1:2:GORE with no ATTACKFLAG_CANLATCH or something?

[ricemastah]

quote:Originally posted by Dasleah:
Well, if we assume that DF Carp are the Common Carp, then I don't know where you're getting the 14 inches long assumption from. See Wikipedia. From that, I'd say that their SIZE needs to be bumped up to 4 or something.

I believe from this line

 

quote: From the Wiki article:
The wild, non-domesticated forms tend to be much less stocky at around 20% - 33% the maximum size.

Edit: Also, I really like the idea of keeping carp as a total watery doom. In fact carp, or rather the stories of carp keep me from making my fortresses in areas with rivers.

[ May 25, 2008: Message edited by: ricemastah ]

[Dasleah]

Yeah, I noticed that too. Perhaps Goblins have domesticated the carp and set them out into the world to further their demonic agenda, hence their larger than average size?

 

[Awayfarer]

Hmmm, how about we call it "Magikarp"?

[Dasleah]

-10 points for Pokemon reference.

Fun Fact: Firefox spellchecker tries to correct 'Pokemon' as 'Daemons'. Looks like the Fundamentalists were right.

Meh.

[Magnusian]

Goldfish of freakin' DOOM, man.
For a name of this megabeast, what about Greater Carp? They could have a water attack that instantly drowns any dwarf that is hit.

[Draco18s]

quote:Originally posted by Dasleah:
<STRONG>And once again, they're just as deadly as any other non-vermin fish out there. If it's the raws that are wrong, then that's not a bug, it's just.... wrong raws, really. A lot of creatures have 1:6:GORE for an attack.</STRONG>

Would that be every creature new to version 0.27.169.33a?