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[twwolfe]

so what Should i expect from it?
I've heard how orcs like to destroy you by the first summer, but i play defensively, so I'm ready for that. anything i should know about that i wouldn't be prepared for?

[RantingRodent]

I think half the Fun of something like Dig Deeper is that it lets Dwarf Fortress surprise you again once you've gotten used to what vanilla throws your way. You sure you want it to be given away?

[twwolfe]

you know, i just started up an embark group, and i realized i have absolutely no idea what any of this stuff does. well, except for the dogs. I thought it would be slightly different, not a whole slew of new stuff.

Yeah, don't spoil anything for me, i want to re-learn how to play DF again.

[Calhoun]

Information about dig deeper.

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If you have played only vanilla. Then you're still likely to get your ass handed to you by the Orc's. They have [trAPAVOID]. If you do manage to survive the Orc Hordes, Dark Elf ambusher's are pretty tough. definitively more formidable than goblins. Also, in my experience, the Halfling caravan and the caravan from Mountain home always arrive close enough for each other to share the depot at the same time. Which, doesn't cause any problem's for actually trading (You get to choose who to trade with each time you initiate trading), but you may need to produce more trade goods depending on your usual production.

Also, plant growth is slowed, cut in half at least, so think about that before you start your farming.

Anyways, your first few forts' are probably going to be full of Fun, i know mine were.

[Shrike]

Just think of orcs as aggressive, tough, angry goblins, and you'll be fine.

And as for starting? Just make sure to bring supplies to dig in, cut wood, and have a good amount of food and wood so you can hole up and get settled before the orcs arrive.

[PotatoDaddy]

I can't stress how important it is to have a stockpile of food!

My first fort in DD I traded for most of the food I had and had no time to move it inside before the Orcs showed up.

[twwolfe]

Just embarked on an Orc fortress by accident. I see fun times ahead

[o_O[WTFace]]

Just get inside quickly and be prepared to sit out the first siege.  Also, try and request Mithril nuggets or blackmetal from the caravan.  Your going to want as much of that stuff as you can find, especially when Urist goes and uses 3 bars of the stuff on some stupid artifact ring. 

"How did you fit a Full Plate Mail's worth of Mithril on a 10r ring?  Where did it all go?  Does the ring rule other rings?  Does it do anything?"
"I don't know, I was possesed"

[twwolfe]

so my habit of buying so much food and booze that i have enough to feed 200 dwarves for 15 years by the second year will finally come in  handy?

awesome

[Chicken Launcher]

the Halfling caravan and the caravan from Mountain home always arrive close enough for each other to share the depot at the same time. Which, doesn't cause any problem's for actually trading

so installing and applying that drowning trap to the halflings because they interrupted the dwarven caravan... wasn't... necessary?

Either way, I haven't gotten a single proper trade caravan for the entire game. I've dealt with orcs and dark elves and the like with no problems aside from stupid dwarves that got themselves killed, but they've always fucked up my trade so far (a few years in). At least I still get the trade goods though .

[Cypress]

so installing and applying that drowning trap to the halflings because they interrupted the dwarven caravan... wasn't... necessary?

Necessary, no. Fun, yes.

[twwolfe]

so installing and applying that drowning trap to the halflings because they interrupted the dwarven caravan... wasn't... necessary?

Necessary, no. Fun, yes.

Dwarf fortress, where the necessity of a situation is subservient to how fun it is

[PhilbertFlange]

so what Should i expect from it?

I don't want to give away too much, but I have two pieces of advice.

My first piece of advice is: don't be ashamed to dig in and wall up in case of a siege (at east for the first year or two), instead of fighting them head on. You will lose otherwise.

My second piece of advice is: learn how to make homemade traps (not the vanilla traps). I would try using some of the stuff from this thread. I'm partial to the two methods I suggested on the second page. I like the pit when I need bones, and the processing station when I only need steel.

[100killer9]

GIANT ANTS.

[LordBucket]

I've heard how orcs like to destroy you by the first summer

I've seen them take as long as two years sometimes, but often it will be first summer, yes.

i play defensively, so I'm ready for that.

HAHAHAHA!!!!!!

Thank you. I needed that.