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Author Topic: Na'Vi and Humans are Elves vs Dwarves  (Read 8677 times)

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Re: Na'Vi and Humans are Elves vs Dwarves
« Reply #45 on: March 09, 2010, 03:56:31 pm »

even if it is as little as four thousand years, that is still a huge amount - technological progress is not linear over time.
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Re: Na'Vi and Humans are Elves vs Dwarves
« Reply #46 on: March 09, 2010, 04:03:39 pm »

Navi != Elves

Why? The Na'Vi didn't eat their dead or the dead of others. Nor did they comment about how those tree huggers ATE the cornel's daughter or sister or wife or other significant other.

They also did not keep animals in cages and pass them around as gifts.
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« Reply #47 on: March 09, 2010, 04:43:46 pm »

Doesn't explain how a pre-industrial society of intelligent beings can hope to escape a Malthusian catastrophe. 

Surely you jest, it's more like 4000 years.  Faster if we didn't have the various Dark Ages. (and equivalents in non-european areas)

(and protection from when humans manage to colonize the star system and some extremist group borrows a tugboat >.>)

Well yea, I guess they never did seem to get sick, but their lifestyle does seem prone to injury.  I would assume they avoid malthusian catastrophe by starving and fighting when populations overshoot available food resources.  Or else they just make less babies to keep population constant, which seems exactly like the sort of biological technology that they would be given to make all the horrible parts of traditional lifestyles disappear  :-X

Humans have been extracting and using copper for at least 10,000 years and non-sedintary agriculture probly started before that.  The aliens have better stuff then copper, clearly, but the knowledge of how to extract it and work it is still something they would need along the way to whatever their industrial level society would look like.  And yea they probly will want an industrial civilization someday, if only to protect the traditional lifestyle they prefer.  Its not reasonable to assume that benevolent humans would even be able to protect them if a couple of space conquistadors decided to drop the hammer of physics on them for whatever reason.  Somehow I don't see people parking a UN Space Fleet there for all eternity to keep the curious or greedy from messing with the place. 
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Re: Na'Vi and Humans are Elves vs Dwarves
« Reply #48 on: March 09, 2010, 04:44:10 pm »

They also did not keep animals in cages and pass them around as gifts.

Thats because they don't even have cages, maybe the humans should have traded them for some more mundane techs like cage making, or metalworking in general.
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Re: Na'Vi and Humans are Elves vs Dwarves
« Reply #49 on: March 09, 2010, 04:47:26 pm »

They also did not keep animals in cages and pass them around as gifts.

Thats because they don't even have cages, maybe the humans should have traded them for some more mundane techs like cage making, or metalworking in general.

But what would you trade the cages for? 20 bins of cloth and a few bags of berries?

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« Reply #50 on: March 09, 2010, 07:02:54 pm »

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Re: Na'Vi and Humans are Elves vs Dwarves
« Reply #51 on: March 09, 2010, 08:23:25 pm »

get your Avatar out of my Dwarf Fortress D:

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Re: Na'Vi and Humans are Elves vs Dwarves
« Reply #52 on: March 09, 2010, 08:44:45 pm »

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Re: Na'Vi and Humans are Elves vs Dwarves
« Reply #53 on: March 09, 2010, 08:46:19 pm »

... he meant the movie.
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Re: Na'Vi and Humans are Elves vs Dwarves
« Reply #54 on: March 09, 2010, 08:50:09 pm »

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“What are you doing?”, asked Minsky. “I am training a randomly wired neural net to play Tic-Tac-Toe” Sussman replied. “Why is the net wired randomly?”, asked Minsky. “I do not want it to have any preconceptions of how to play”, Sussman said.
Minsky then shut his eyes. “Why do you close your eyes?”, Sussman asked his teacher.
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« Reply #55 on: March 09, 2010, 08:52:55 pm »

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Re: Na'Vi and Humans are Elves vs Dwarves
« Reply #56 on: March 09, 2010, 08:55:59 pm »

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In the days when Sussman was a novice, Minsky once came to him as he sat hacking at the PDP-6.
“What are you doing?”, asked Minsky. “I am training a randomly wired neural net to play Tic-Tac-Toe” Sussman replied. “Why is the net wired randomly?”, asked Minsky. “I do not want it to have any preconceptions of how to play”, Sussman said.
Minsky then shut his eyes. “Why do you close your eyes?”, Sussman asked his teacher.
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Re: Na'Vi and Humans are Elves vs Dwarves
« Reply #57 on: March 09, 2010, 09:19:09 pm »

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Re: Na'Vi and Humans are Elves vs Dwarves
« Reply #58 on: March 10, 2010, 03:08:09 am »

Theres talk bout the second movie being about UNDERGROUND Na'Vi. With lots of creatures that live in magma and dark corners. Na'Vi are dwarvish (not dwarfish (dwarFISH are part Carp (taht would be so friggin EPICBEAST)))
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Re: Na'Vi and Humans are Elves vs Dwarves
« Reply #59 on: March 10, 2010, 03:57:07 am »

Theres talk bout the second movie being about UNDERGROUND Na'Vi. With lots of creatures that live in magma and dark corners. Na'Vi are dwarvish (not dwarfish (dwarFISH are part Carp (taht would be so friggin EPICBEAST)))
That would make me kill myself in agony.
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