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Knight Otu

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Re: Dawn of a New World discussion (AoR-like; game starts!)
« Reply #135 on: April 08, 2010, 03:52:26 am »

I would like to see a few more turns posted, by the way.
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Re: Dawn of a New World discussion (AoR-like; game starts!)
« Reply #136 on: April 08, 2010, 04:56:41 am »

Sowwy :3

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Re: Dawn of a New World discussion (AoR-like; game starts!)
« Reply #137 on: April 08, 2010, 09:01:40 am »

Oops, forgot about this. Will put up a turn right quick.
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Re: Dawn of a New World discussion (AoR-like; game starts!)
« Reply #138 on: April 08, 2010, 09:22:07 pm »

In the last turn, I should have made 2 clothes, and used .2 clothes (plus my spirituality bonus) to get one morale point, correct? I should have 1.8 clothes then. However, I only have 1...
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Re: Dawn of a New World discussion (AoR-like; game starts!)
« Reply #139 on: April 08, 2010, 10:25:20 pm »

I've worked out how this shit works:

Shrines provide a +1 Spirituality Bonus to Morale; no matter how many people you have, 1 shrine adds 1 Morale.

Clothes, on the other hand, need to be consumed, so if you have 12000 people, you need 1.2 units of clothes to get +1 Morale, if you have 50000 people, you need 5 units of clothes to get +1 Morale, but even with 50000 people the Shrine will still provide +1 Morale.

So if you provide say 12000 people with 1.2 Clothes and a Shrine, you get a total +2 Morale bonus.


So last turn, you had 7 Morale (+1 from Clothes, +1 from Shrine), the Drought hit you with a -2 Morale Penalty, but your governor reduced that to a -1 penalty as per his special ability, thus giving you a total of 6 Morale.
« Last Edit: April 08, 2010, 10:27:10 pm by Neruz »
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Re: Dawn of a New World discussion (AoR-like; game starts!)
« Reply #140 on: April 08, 2010, 10:42:37 pm »

That can't be right, what would tombs do then? Plus one of Haika's leaders has a rather odd effect in that case: +50% spirituality would have to mean "one level of morale requires half normal luxuries" to do anything.

I'm thinking Otu messed up in a couple places.  :-\


EDIT: You forgot that one of Cheddarius' leaders gives +1 morale. So he had 5 base morale, -1 for drought thanks to his special ability, +1 morale from his normal ability. Then he added the shrine and/or clothing for 6 morale total.
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Re: Dawn of a New World discussion (AoR-like; game starts!)
« Reply #141 on: April 08, 2010, 10:49:05 pm »

Ok, you're right, that can't be right.


But hang on; if you can only build 1 Shrine, then Shrines are alot less useful, especially later on in the game.

Aagh, this Morale system is confusing and rediculous :C

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Re: Dawn of a New World discussion (AoR-like; game starts!)
« Reply #142 on: April 08, 2010, 11:01:11 pm »

Shrines are still pretty useful. For example, even if you have 20,000 people, you only have to use 1 clothing per turn instead of 2. That's a savings of 2 labor per turn, for an investment of 4 labor at most. It pays for itself within two turns or less.
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Re: Dawn of a New World discussion (AoR-like; game starts!)
« Reply #143 on: April 08, 2010, 11:02:22 pm »

True, they're just not as useful as i thought.

This morale system is overcomplicated XD

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Re: Dawn of a New World discussion (AoR-like; game starts!)
« Reply #144 on: April 09, 2010, 07:47:35 am »

Haika, sorry for shorting you that wood. You're right, you should have it. However, you don't have the Ceremonial Burial technology required for the Tombs.

Cheddarius - It seems I forgot to add the remaining clothes to your warehouse. The 1 wool isn't the clothes. You had 2 wool at the start of the turn, harvested another unit, and then used 2 units for clothing, leaving the 1 wool in the status. So, yes, the 1.8 clothes are there.
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« Reply #145 on: April 09, 2010, 09:53:16 am »

Woot, all right.
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« Reply #146 on: April 09, 2010, 01:08:54 pm »

Haika, sorry for shorting you that wood. You're right, you should have it. However, you don't have the Ceremonial Burial technology required for the Tombs.

Ahh right, fixeded. Also if I can use any of that labor in the labor pool, put it to use makeing more clothes, or at least one of them. Not quite sure how that worked so just let it be.
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Re: Dawn of a New World discussion (AoR-like; game starts!)
« Reply #147 on: April 10, 2010, 06:41:40 am »

Turn in a few hours, in someone still wants to add flavor to their posts. Some bookkeeping notes in advance:

Neruz, you started the turn with 3 wood, produced 2 wood, and used 2 wood, so you're at 3 wood still, not 2. Also, you're working a hunted tile, but you don't seem to take that into account. That would add 1 food or 1 leather to your stockpile, and since the leather won't rot, I'll assume that one.

Haika, you started the turn with 2 wood, produced 2 wood, and used 3 wood, so you're at 1 wood, not 2. Also, the pasture doesn't reduce the food production unconditionally, only when you use it to produce an animal. That means you'll have more food in your granary.

Evilcherry, I noticed that I shouldn't have removed the 0.2 clothes in your last turn. The 1 food "waste" was actually sufficient to increase the morale without the clothes (remember that excess food eaten counts as luxury).
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Re: Dawn of a New World discussion (AoR-like; game starts!)
« Reply #148 on: April 10, 2010, 09:05:16 am »

Neruz, you started the turn with 3 wood, produced 2 wood, and used 2 wood, so you're at 3 wood still, not 2. Also, you're working a hunted tile, but you don't seem to take that into account. That would add 1 food or 1 leather to your stockpile, and since the leather won't rot, I'll assume that one.

Oops.

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Re: Dawn of a New World discussion (AoR-like; game starts!)
« Reply #149 on: April 10, 2010, 10:55:14 am »

The turn is up. As always, feel free to yell any errors at me.

I think I know Neruz's choice already, but I didn't want to assume there.

Regarding the Excess Labor Pool, it's simply a pool where the fractions of a labor point (and food requirements) are stored that the population would generate from never being a clean multiple of 1000. You'll automatically gain the labor point and need to provide an extra food once the pool fills up.
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