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[Pathos]

Basically, my former school / college has had a teacher ( who taught Physical Education; Gym to you Americans ) have "sexual relations" with a student over the age of consent ( she's a Sixth Former, basically 16+ year olds ). Liverpool Echo Article on the incident.

Since I don't know WHO she is, I can't say whether or not she is over the age of 18 ( although that's possible ), but I still don't think this guy should be fired for what he's done. She consented to the act, is over the age of consent and no one seems to be hurt from this. My view of this may be altered by how well I know the teacher ( who is a fairly nice guy, insofar as I could tell ), but I'd like everyone else's opinions on this, if you would?

[Leafsnail]

The law is in place as it is regarded as a breach of trust to have sexual relations with someone you are responsble for looking after.

[Il Palazzo]

I can't say whether or not she is over the age of 18 ( although that's possible )

Although sixth-form students are above the age of consent, it is a criminal offence for a person “to engage in any sexual activity with a person aged under 18 with whom they have a relationship of trust, irrespective of the age of consent, even if the basis for their relationship is consensual”.

What I understand is that she must be under 18, otherwise there wouldn't be a problem.
I'm sure the law had been instated in good faith, so that no teacher would take advantage of the the student-mentor relationship, but more meaningful and clear would be to simply raise the age of consent to 18 rather than create exceptions.
Anyway, dura lex sed lex, so he needs to take consequences.

[Pathos]

What I understand is that she must be under 18, otherwise there wouldn't be a problem.
I'm sure the law had been instated in good faith, so that no teacher would take advantage of the the student-mentor relationship, but more meaningful and clear would be to simply raise the age of consent to 18 rather than create exceptions.
Anyway, dura lex sed lex, so he needs to take consequences.

Hmm, apparently the person who it was is, at the least, over the age of 18 now and out of the jurisdiction of the teacher in question, so...

[Jude]

Gross and extremely unethical, although I tend to think older teenagers are given a lot less credit for decision-making ability than they get, and it's certainly "gross and unethical" rather than "evil and criminal and probably worthy of castration" which it would be if the kid were younger

[Maggarg - Eater of chicke]

Meh. If she was above the age of consent, and did consent what's the fuss?

[Realmfighter]

Meh. If she was above the age of consent, and did consent what's the fuss?

It gross and unethical! Blah!

Honestly? I have no clue.

[Akroma]

so two individuals of proper age had a consentual sexual relationship ?


holy shit, what has this world come to ? I am sure they were not even married, how horrible

[Virex]

Well, the point of this is that the teacher is, forcibly, in a position of power over the student. At a glance this might not seem like a problem, but the problem lies in the fact that the teacher could bend grades and rules to a point where, though not detectable, it is highly disruptive. That also only gets worse when they break up. That's one half of the story and mainly deals with love affairsd

The other half has to do with the sexual side of the story. The teacher is as said, in a position of power over the student, from which it is very dificult for the student to break free. That makes it quite easy for the teacher to exploit said position of power for whatever reasons you can fill in. It doesn't matter that the relationship seems concentual, because even though the student agrees with it, That doesn't mean there's no abuse of power going on.

[Jackrabbit]

Meh. If she was above the age of consent, and did consent what's the fuss?

I don't know about Liverpool but in Australia it's illegal to have sexual relations with someone if you are responsible for them for any extended period of time, so if she was not in that school, it'd be fine.

Laws are funny.

[Untouchable]

Meh. If she was above the age of consent, and did consent what's the fuss?

I don't know about Liverpool but in Australia it's illegal to have sexual relations with someone if you are responsible for them for any extended period of time, so if she was not in that school, it'd be fine.

Laws are funny.

Correct. I'd wager that the English have something similar in effect because we got a buttload of laws off of them. It's a wee bit absurd that one detail could actually change the legality of it all.

[Jackrabbit]

I was also surprised to find it was legal for me to have sex with someone 2 years older (or younger, once I hit 13) than me after I turned 11.

Really funny, actually. Slightly odd, I think.

[The Architect]

Age-related sexual restrictions are all relative to the situation in a way. I think 2 years is too much of a difference in early years, but that's because I know of multiple girls who were dateraped in 7th grade by 9th graders at my school.

In this particular case the clear problem is the teacher-student relation. The teacher will be fired. There are rules in every college-level institution that come with employment, and one of them is that you can't have romantic or sexual relations with students. If you want to look at the validity of the rule then I would stand on the side of the rule. It's a huge opportunity for sexual exploitation due to the teacher's position of power, just the same as an employer's position over an employee of the opposite sex.

[Jude]

Not to mention it's an abandonment of the responsibility of your job

[cowofdoom78963]

It's not like he raped her.


It's her fault for being a skank.