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Torgen

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Impulse buying
« on: February 25, 2010, 08:15:49 pm »

Noob dorf herder here, with another question! The second elf caravan brought a caged giant desert scorpion and a caged wolf, among the more mundane animals they usually bring, so I bought them both. Now, I'd assume the wolf can be used to guard against thieves like a dog, but what canI do with a giant scorpion besides just look at him? (or her.)  Can I chain it in an hallway? should I make a secret room off my entrance and loose it on goblin invaders? What if I let it loose and it ADOPTS someone?  :o (far-fetched, I know, but I've rapidly learned the far-fetched is far from impossible in DF! Like, one champion knocking the other one down a well while sparring and him drowning. :( )
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Re: Impulse buying
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2010, 08:18:12 pm »

Noob dorf herder here, with another question! The second elf caravan brought a caged giant desert scorpion and a caged wolf, among the more mundane animals they usually bring, so I bought them both. Now, I'd assume the wolf can be used to guard against thieves like a dog, but what canI do with a giant scorpion besides just look at him? (or her.)  Can I chain it in an hallway? should I make a secret room off my entrance and loose it on goblin invaders? What if I let it loose and it ADOPTS someone?  :o (far-fetched, I know, but I've rapidly learned the far-fetched is far from impossible in DF! Like, one champion knocking the other one down a well while sparring and him drowning. :( )

Yes. Use a restraint to put them somewhere. You can make the scorpion adopt someone by using the animals menu. However, I believe it has a tendency to destroy wood buildings even though its tamed.
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Re: Impulse buying
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2010, 08:35:13 pm »

Arena battle!  Scorpions vs Goblins vs Nobles vs Undead!

Having some hardcore wildlife chained at the entrance to your fort is a good idea too. 
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Re: Impulse buying
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2010, 08:53:55 pm »

If you're a noob, then a word of advice on chaining up animals: sometimes enemies bring bows.  Make sure they're behind blind corners.  Nothing worse than having your war grizzly bears slain because the enemy could just stand outside of range.
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Re: Impulse buying
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2010, 09:17:56 pm »

my favorite way is have those war animals in a pit.... with a bridge or three over said pit... with automated plates to drop invaders into said pit... =D the fun will ensue!
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Re: Impulse buying
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2010, 09:39:15 pm »

my favorite way is have those war animals in a pit.... with a bridge or three over said pit... with automated plates to drop invaders into said pit... =D the fun will ensue!

But if they have archers that didn't fall in, they'd shoot my scorp :P
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« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2010, 10:57:22 pm »

my favorite way is have those war animals in a pit.... with a bridge or three over said pit... with automated plates to drop invaders into said pit... =D the fun will ensue!

But if they have archers that didn't fall in, they'd shoot my scorp :P

At least giant scorpions can't feel pain or feel fear.

Unlike my pet dragon that I had, which was knocked uncosncious by a goblin wrestler. Luckily she woke up...t hen set the entire squad on fire.

Still, it was rather silly.

Though, sadly, Ziril (the name of the dragon) has passed, she was cut in half by a goblin axelord. I almost caught that goblin in a cage trap too, was 1 tile away, but it dodged and I had to sic my champions on him.

Oh well, he got knocked into about 50 pieces by my hammerdorf. Felt vindicated.
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Re: Impulse buying
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2010, 12:53:18 am »

how did you manage to tame a dragon? don't they usually develop a palate for dwarf flesh?
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Re: Impulse buying
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2010, 01:32:19 am »

only if they manage to snack on your particular dwarves. so you gotta catch em in a cage trap before they can do any serious damage.

I keep a 1-tile wide lane lined with traps as a side entrance to my surface forts for exactly that reason. dragon arrives, close main gate, let them wander into the cage traps.

It also provides goblins for the arena!
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Re: Impulse buying
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2010, 11:45:35 am »

Elves are only useful for the following reasons:

1) Elf bone skulls decorated with spikes of elf bone.
2) Bringing piles and piles of wood for trade tribute by accident.
3) Bringing breeding pairs of rare and exotic animals.


Sure, sure, swarms of ravenous kittens in a death pit can be fun. But do you know whats even more fun?

Swarms of ravenous giant lions, tigers, and polar bears in a death pit.   :D
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Re: Impulse buying
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2010, 11:50:02 am »

...breeding pairs. Waaaait a second. Can you breed GDS?
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« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2010, 11:55:06 am »

...breeding pairs. Waaaait a second. Can you breed GDS?

Some things cannot breed, but most regular animals will breed just fine. The very exotic things like dragons and GCS's will not breed unless modded.
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Re: Impulse buying
« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2010, 11:59:47 am »

I know you can't breed a GCS... I was asking if you could breed a GDS.
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Re: Impulse buying
« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2010, 12:01:34 pm »

If it lacks the child tag, just toss in [CHILD:1] and a littersize tag.
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Re: Impulse buying
« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2010, 12:06:11 pm »

If it lakes teh child tag, just toss in [CHILD:1] and a littersize tag.

Also make sure they have a gender.

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