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[lastofthelight]

Just a question. Now, the next version will have all sorts of caste stuff and tissue layer stuff. Does anyone know however how tissue layers work? If a being can't be killed via bleeding, and you set it up so even if you chop off all its external organs/tissue layers, it has protected internal ones that can't be accessed, could you make a being that could conceivably never die?

I was thinking about how one would implement a Great Old One, or some sort of thing which would just, instead of dying, lie there on the ground forever....not really dead, but not really alive.

[Untelligent]

Well, some of the new raw previews show that magma men aren't made of anything except magma, so presumably they'll still die if the tissue layers get damaged enough or something.

[3]

Magma men and the like die when a "vital" bodypart (lower body, upper body, head) is severed. There currently isn't (and won't be in the next version) any means of bypassing that, besides not giving the creature any UPPERBODY or LOWERBODY parts, which may or may not cause some undesirable effects.

[Sir Reginald Bathwater]

If organs have a size of 0, then they cannot be hit iirc, and it would probably be possible to create in impenetrable material to use as skin for the creature, as, (i think) you have to get through each layer to harm the one below it. Not entirely sure if it would be protected from crushing damage, though. You could probably use the [NO_PAIN], no bleeding etc tags to stop organ damage from affecting the creature, and it might be possible to make the vital parts invulnerable through ridiculous custom materials.

[GD]

 as 3 said, Creature without any vital parts(including upperbody and lowerbody) will be immortal
see http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=48395.15 to get example of such creature

[Deon]

Unless you mod in a disease which is able to kill such creature .

[Grimlocke]

as 3 said, Creature without any vital parts(including upperbody and lowerbody) will be immortal
see http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=48395.15 to get example of such creature

Mighty magma would still burn it away, or melt it. Im pretty sure that would kill it.

Unless you at [MELTING_POINT:NONE] and all the similar tags.

Even then you can still atom smasm or chasm them though.

[3]

No need for the melting point tags - FIREIMMUNE should do it.

[tfaal]

Or FIXEDTEMP, for that matter. Which I believe magmamen already have, so yeah, no solidifying magma dudes. Also, if you give a creature the MEGABEAST or POWER tags, they wont be atom-smashable. Combine this with the lack of infinite pits in the next version, and the ability to make adamantine-like (or stronger) tissues, and immortal creatures certainly don't seem far off.

Edit: On the subject of Great Old Ones, you could manage something with a syndrome that produces incredibly long lived unconsciousness. Perhaps you could give it poisonous blood that it's not immune to, and only give the vascular tag to it's deepest innards. Only issue then is keeping it from bleeding to death. An absurd toughness rating maybe?

[D_E]

I thought that what made creatures atom-smash exempt was a size above 10.  From the Wiki:

Immune Creatures
Creatures with a size larger than 10 cannot be crushed by a lowering drawbridge - instead, the bridge will deconstruct into its component parts. Such units will also prevent a lowered bridge from raising, as well as a retracting bridge from opening. Vermin seem to be entirely impervious to the atom smasher - it passes straight through them, leaving them on top of it.

[tfaal]

Ah, that makes more sense. My mistake.

[GD]

is there any way to prevent death from collapsed natural stone?

[Haspen]

is there any way to prevent death from collapsed natural stone?

If thing gets directly under falling natural ground - no.