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[NW_Kohaku]

OK, so, talking with others in this forum, I got the idea to up the [trade_capacity] of some of the beasts of burden that elves use, so that I could get some more caged animals to purchase...

Turns out that going the blunt, graceless path of simply adding two zeros to the end of their carry capacity was a bad idea, as it wound up with something like 25 pages of inventory for the camels, and they would take longer than the time the traders would stick around the fortress to even unload the goods, making actual trade impossible.  Even if I just looted it all, the sheer amount of CRAP these elves were trading was killing my frame rate down to the low teens.  With just 6 pack animals!

Worse, using a little save scumming to go back to before the elves arrived, I didn't notice a drop in the camel's capacity after adjusting the raws...  Apparently, what's in those camels is set before they actually arrive, but not before sometime in Winter, when I actually modded those raws the first time around.  (I guess at the change to Spring?)

So... I did the only thing a dwarf COULD do... I turned on my atom smasher.

Well, turns out I mis-timed this - The second elf to come through (wanted at least one to get through) managed to see the bridge go down right in front of him, and got tossed by the bridge on the up-swing.  This apparently dazed his camel temporarily, as these things do... but what happened next was unexpected.  It turns out that these camels drop their trade goods upon being stunned...  and because it had something like 300 goods stacks on its back, this actually caused a trade-goods tsunami!

A wave of bins of cloth, rope reed junk, wooden earrings, idols, and the like started flowing outwards from my atom smasher!  It expanded the width of my hallway, fell down my atom smasher's trench to it's Hall O'Fun below, and threatened to drown my dwarves (and my framerate) with useless crap!

Fortunately, it didn't extend more than 10 tiles, and the atom smasher landed on top of 3 of the pack animals.

Still, that's 2 animals that dumped a veritable mountain of crap upon my fortress halls, and all I can do is set a dump site underneath my atom smasher to mitigate the problem, but with hundreds of trade goods, this will take QUITE a while to sort out.

Pictures of the aftermath (sorry for custom tileset, if it's confusing):

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[Satarus]

Oh carp!  That is a lot of junk.

[dralloss]

Haha! That's quite impressive. I've never heard of anything like that before. Hey, at least it wasn't the caged animals that went spilling everywhere. That might have ended up messily.

[NW_Kohaku]

It's a LOT more than it looks, too...

I'm still sorting through the crap that the camels dropped, looking for cages and maybe some whip vine seeds (no savage tiles around me), but the first tile I counted near the bridge contained 267 seperate items in it... and this pile is spread across about 50 tiles.  (And yes, there are caged animals spilled about... they're just still caged.)

Fortunately, however, it seems like the pile's "depth" is halved for every tile away from the bridge that the tsunami has flowed.

[Urist Imiknorris]

I did something like this before. It was incredibly Fun. The kobolds had a field day decade when I drowned them (after buying the fifteen alligators they brought, and the seven giant lions, the five elephants, the eight hippos...

[SkyRender]

That more or less obligated me to design a warning sign for your Dwarves to put up in the area until it's all cleared out.

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[NW_Kohaku]

Heh... reminds me of something else...

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Anyway, I set the whole zone for mass dumping to a dump site underneath the atom smasher, but I've been un-marking for dumping cages with animals in them (plus some thread, my looms are always running me dry on thread, oh and wood spears and short swords... useful training weapons).

So far, I've unmarked about 4 black bears, 3 elk, 1 deer, 1 muskox, 2 jaguars, 2 cougars, 2 leapards, 1 giant jaguar, 1 raccoon, 3 rhesus macaques, , an alligator, about 9 assorted camels, a turtle, 2 orioles, 2 red-winged blackbirds,  2 cardinals, 1 blue jay, 5 assorted squirrels, and a chipmunk.

I still have about half to go...

[riznar]

That sounds like an epic zoo in the making

[wagawaga]

I think I'll do that with wagons. Considering how good I have been to humans lately (buying every caravan at double the price listed) I might end up with several hundreds whips & scourges with the right trade agreements. I almost feel sorry for my siegers now...

[They Got Leader]

Can you change the amount an animal can carry without having to re-gen your world?

[Kidiri]

Can you change the amount an animal can carry without having to re-gen your world?

Yes. I believe that you only need to regen the world when you add a new file or entry in an existing file. When adding, removing or altering tags in an existing entry, no regen is needed. The only exception is entity entries. When altering one of those, a regen is needed.

[Blackburn]

Even if you clean all that up, I bet the elf stench will last for years.

[garfield751]

not to mention another elf caravan will probly arrive next year

[They Got Leader]

Can you change the amount an animal can carry without having to re-gen your world?

Yes. I believe that you only need to regen the world when you add a new file or entry in an existing file. When adding, removing or altering tags in an existing entry, no regen is needed. The only exception is entity entries. When altering one of those, a regen is needed.

Please excuse the fact that I am not thinking clearly (running a nice fever), to me that statement came out weird. So that's a yes, I can mod the holding capabilities of a pack animal WITHOUT having to regen the world?

[sunshaker]

Can you change the amount an animal can carry without having to re-gen your world?

Yes. I believe that you only need to regen the world when you add a new file or entry in an existing file. When adding, removing or altering tags in an existing entry, no regen is needed. The only exception is entity entries. When altering one of those, a regen is needed.

Please excuse the fact that I am not thinking clearly (running a nice fever), to me that statement came out weird. So that's a yes, I can mod the holding capabilities of a pack animal WITHOUT having to regen the world?

Correct.