Okay, first off, here's the problem:
It was in fact you who started the argument. After Cthulhu responded to my post I told him that he would probably enjoy the show more if he didn't obsess over plot. Then you come in and start to yell at me for having a juvenile sense of humor and that Im throwing shit into the ether or whatever the hell that means.
then this happens:
You, CowOfDoom, seem incapable of believing people could possibly find something you like bad, and then set about trying to defend it with claims that are a hair's breadth from "You just don't get it!"
unknown to me you had decided to change topic from family guy to my argument
This was never about Family Guy. Family Guy provided a background for my argument which was (and this bit's important)
always about your behavior. Not your sense of humor (although you don't seem to mind ragging on mine. Another oxymoron, especially after you claim it was just a case of 'differing opinions'), I want to make that very clear. I didn't change anything, and the argument never jumped from one topic to another; you just didn't catch on fast enough. Here's my problem, in brief:
You (you) have a horrendously irritating tendency to jump into a thread, and disagree with the side that holds the majority (majority sometimes even meaning
everyone - but not all the time) and then act like the only reason our opinions are the way they are is because (and this is something that would have set off an epic rant in that thread as well had I been in the mood):
ED (a) is too hilarious to not be funny.
You guys just dont know how to have fun. (b)
Compare that to this:
Family guy (a) is hilarious.
Your all like "Yah sure I laughed at it and had a grand old time, but the show is really stupid and the jokes dont go along with the plot so I dont like it."
Seriously you people need to get off your high horses. (b)
Not only is that second quote nearly exactly the same, in some ways it's
worse. You claim that (a) is hilarious but you don't explain why. Come to think of it, you still haven't. For either. Then you proceed to claim that the people who have an opinion that differs to yours are wrong (and yes, if you provide a contrary position
and what you believe is the reason the other side has their opinion
and make it very clear you think the reason a foolish one, you're saying you think we're wrong and no amount of skirting around the subject will change that) because of (b). (b), in both cases, is a claim that people don't enjoy it because... what? Because they're all too stuck up to just
get it? That's ridiculous. It's confusing, there's no sense in it. If someone does not like something you do like, then it stands to reason that they
have a reason. It's even more jarring when they
present that reason in the thread, which you proceed to skip over and then make up an excuse that supports your ego. That's my problem. So focus on rebutting that,
without claiming that I'm stuck up, if you please. Moving right along.
You also didn't explain why we were wrong and how we were all stuck up about it, apart from a snide comment that I'm not sure you didn't write before even reading the thread, because people clearly explained why they didn't like it, and they certainly didn't say that they love watching it but also hate it (and could you please explain how the hell you figured out/made up that little oxymoron?).
I want to make it clear that I never said anyone here was wrong. I just said they were being snobs about it. As for my quote I guess I wasn't being specific. It was just the general feeling of the thread.
Now, I've covered why you did say that you thought we were wrong no matter how much you want to pretend you didn't, so here's my main issue. 'As for my quote I guess I wasn't being specific. It was just the general feeling of the thread.'
What.
Look, point me to a post where someone said "Family Guy is hilarious! But I don't like it." and maybe I'll accept that that was the general feeling of
that person but I can't find a single post (apart from your declaration that people felt this way) that claimed that they laughed heartily at Family Guy and still hated it. Once again, you've made up a foolish opposing argument to make your own look better. I know you seem to enjoy building strawmen but could you not do it right in front of me?
As for my statement it was a response to your post where you said
Maybe I'm on said horse because I can see Family Guy for what it really is. Entertainment for Frat Boys who've stayed up all night and are now so wasted they'd laugh at a motionless lemon and for 10 year old children who think it's 'edgy' because of the sex and the tried-and-true
Get it now? You want to prove that your better then frat boys and 10 year olds.
The day I need to prove that I'm better than 10 year olds and frat boys is the day you can put me to bed with a shovel, quite frankly. This is another case of what appears to be a trend with you: misinterpreting me. That was a part of my 'This is my valid argument for why Family Guy isn't funny, learn from it' rant, and you acknowledge that and yet
still try and pull meanings out of it that don't exist. That was my assumption as to what the target audience is for Family Guy and if it seems harsh then... well, I've already explained why
that was the case. I believe Family Guy is tailor made for people who don't look for much in their TV, and that's fine because I know that's not me. I don't need to prove I'm better than
that particular demographic, Christ no. I was just exaggerating. Of
course it's not just 10 year olds and frat boys that watch the show. But even if it was, saying so doesn't mean I think they're better than me and that I'm suffering from some sort of inferiority complex.
That, I think, covers it. Obligatory tl;dr:
Your method and manor are both rude, confusing and in most cases, irrelevant to the topic at hand. If you want to present your case in a way people'll take seriously, make a rational argument, don't claim the other side is anything (snobbish, devoid of humor, ect) without at least a modicum of proof and for God's sake,
read the thread beforehand and make
sure you understand it.
Dark please don't jump into this argument, especially with a post that doesn't do anything for the arguments but tell cow that you want to fight him tot he death
This is true. No need to be excessively rude about it, not that I don't appreciate your assistance.