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darius

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new display mode idea
« on: February 21, 2010, 08:37:04 am »

Well we already are using openGl so why not: This?

Basically it's a opengl shaders that are doing all the work. Of course that means that you need to have newer card but maybe 4 digit fps is (for gui) would be worth the trouble.
Now that i think about it i would rather see pathing implemented on shaders :D
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Re: new display mode idea
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2010, 01:22:07 pm »

Sounds awesome enough.
I wonder, if Baughn would be up for this. And, if it would be worth the extra hassle.
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Re: new display mode idea
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2010, 06:16:52 pm »

How ressource-heavy is the display system of DF anyway ? I always figured that the pathfinding was the main process.

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Re: new display mode idea
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2010, 06:55:58 pm »

Graphics power means soap to DF. The game is all about processing power, and shaders would be about as effective in DF as it would be in a Zork game.
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Re: new display mode idea
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2010, 08:01:13 pm »

How ressource-heavy is the display system of DF anyway ? I always figured that the pathfinding was the main process.
Well 40D* series against 40D have a good increase in FPS. (e.g i was playing at about 70 fps with d16 it's 110)
Graphics power means soap to DF. The game is all about processing power, and shaders would be about as effective in DF as it would be in a Zork game.
You probably didn't look into it. It's about using shaders (or gpu for that mater) do computations and thus allowing cpu to do other things (like pathing).
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Re: new display mode idea
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2010, 10:08:42 pm »

I don't think it would make much of a difference, but I might do it for fun. And then we'll see.
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Re: new display mode idea
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2010, 01:07:30 am »

I don't think it would make much of a difference, but I might do it for fun. And then we'll see.

fun? get back to work!

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« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2010, 04:26:26 am »

I don't think it would make much of a difference, but I might do it for fun. And then we'll see.
Thought as much. ;D
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Re: new display mode idea
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2010, 12:33:49 pm »

Now that i think about it i would rather see pathing implemented on shaders :D

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This paper describes an efficient GPU implementation of parallel global pathfinding using the CUDA programming environment, and demonstrates GPU performance scale advantage in executing an inherently irregular and divergent algorithm.
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Re: new display mode idea
« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2010, 12:36:59 pm »

Now that i think about it i would rather see pathing implemented on shaders :D

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This paper describes an efficient GPU implementation of parallel global pathfinding using the CUDA programming environment, and demonstrates GPU performance scale advantage in executing an inherently irregular and divergent algorithm.

Except that not everyone has a GPU capable of taking advantage of CUDA.  You know, by being limited to a subset of all nVidia cards...
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« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2010, 01:52:04 pm »

Except that not everyone has a GPU capable of taking advantage of CUDA.  You know, by being limited to a subset of all nVidia cards...

So?  It's a research paper showing that pathfinding can work on a GPU, not a functional/usable implementation (rarely found in papers).  I have an ATI card, I'm well aware of the limitations of CUDA, it doesn't matter.  A proper library would probably use OpenCL, which can target multi-vendor GPUs and CPUs.
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Re: new display mode idea
« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2010, 04:57:14 pm »

6x speed boost in shader mode.  :-*
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Re: new display mode idea
« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2010, 05:17:48 pm »

6x speed boost in shader mode.  :-*

Holy Armok!  That's insane.
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Re: new display mode idea
« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2010, 05:38:24 pm »

Well, it just means there's no overhead from display anymore.
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Re: new display mode idea
« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2010, 06:52:20 pm »

Well, it just means there's no overhead from display anymore.

I know, but it's still impressive.  I assume that's VS OpenGL?
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