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[JanusTwoface]

No, sadly. Are you Org's Doppelganger Enchanter buddy?

No.  I'm an Agent.  Org is town.

Also, after seeing my uPick, several players (myself included) resolved not to let Org acting scummy not result in him being lynched "Because he's Org."each night.

I've seen him do it in the past and I agree that it's annoying, but this time he's telling the truth.

[Pandarsenic]

... Yeah, you pretty much have to be his Doppelganger buddy at this point, I imagine.

[JanusTwoface]

... Yeah, you pretty much have to be his Doppelganger buddy at this point, I imagine.

There are three options:
- We're both dopps and I'm trying to cover Org.
- I'm a dopp but I'm telling the truth about Org to make myself look better later.
- I'm town and telling the truth.

I strongly advise you to consider the (true) third option.  Because the way things are going now, we're on the verge of losing.

[Pandarsenic]

Very well.

Extension please.

I'll have to look this over a bit.

[ToonyMan]

I'm voting Jim because he was going on the grudge wagon with Webadict Day 1 and thought it would be an easy kill early on.  I thought I made this very clear three times.

Then when I question him on it he keeps asking the same question back at me.
Why do I think he's scum, why am I voting him.  It's stupid.

[Org]

Org needs to dieeee. Or more people need to vote for him - we need to be careful of a Dopp Enchanter, yar?

I will just wait and keep unvoting you.

[Kashyyk]

I believe Janus, and do you know why?

Because I'm a Detective, and I investigated Janus last night and he came up Agent.

So of course he could be Scum, but WIFOM aside I believe him town. Which means that it is only right to throw another town vote onto Toonyman.

[ToonyMan]

...

You're voting me because Janus is?

That's the most band wagon-y you can get.  Doesn't matter if he is town, you're not explaining anything.

[JanusTwoface]

I believe Janus, and do you know why?

Because I'm a Detective, and I investigated Janus last night and he came up Agent.

So of course he could be Scum, but WIFOM aside I believe him town. Which means that it is only right to throw another town vote onto Toonyman.

While I appreciate the confirmation(ish) that I'm at least partly telling the truth, please look into ToonyMan yourself before voting him.  At this point, I'm mostly going off of a gut feeling of something wrong in his interactions, especially with Jim.

...

You're voting me because Janus is?

That's the most band wagon-y you can get.  Doesn't matter if he is town, you're not explaining anything.

Even if you're scum, this does make sense.  I went back and looked at Jim's posts.  On day 1, he was the 5th (and final) vote on Webadict.  His reasoning was basically the common reasoning of the day, nothing particularly unusual about that, if nothing new either.

Since then, you've basically been going after him for the bandwagon + lackluster voting.  On day 2, you vote him for basically that exact reasoning (Feb 25, 9:22 pm, #130).  He votes you back (Feb 26, 5:23 pm, #145) saying that it's scummy to go after people for mislyncing a townie and you call OMGUS.

On one level, I think that's crazy.  There's almost 24 hours and 15 posts between the two.  On the other hand, I see what you mean, that would be just about long enough to avoid the original OMGUS and still get the vote in.

Am I missing something, or is that the sum of why he thinks you're scum?

While I've got you, ToonyMan and Jim Groovester.  What are your thoughts on the claims by Org, myself, and Kashyyk?

[ToonyMan]

Jim thinks I'm scum because I voted him.

I pretty much guessed Org was the mad scientist during his fun parade.  I don't doubt it.
For Janus and Kashyyk though...you could just be doing a final move to win the game.

It's probably mylo right now, that means if we mislynch we lose.  All the three scum would have to do is fake-claim an investigation role and point their finger at some dude.  They might even go all in and have another of their buddies back up their claim!

Day Extension.  Comments?

[Jim Groovester]

While I've got you, ToonyMan and Jim Groovester.  What are your thoughts on the claims by Org, myself, and Kashyyk?

I believe Org's claim. I guessed it first, and it took all day to finally drag it out of him. But that doesn't mean he's town. In fact, everything seems to point to him being scum caught in an utterly incompetent lie.

You then claim you're an Agent, all the while supporting Org's town claim. Who'd you investigate? You gotta come out with all the information if you're to be believed, which I don't right now. Especially since Kashyyk comes all the way from lurkerland to support your claim.

How. Convenient.

What you're saying right now looks like a reversal of something you said in Kingmaker:

Really?  I haven't played with SirBayer before to the point that his behavior has stuck.  If this is common though, it's reminiscent of Org.

No matter if he's town or scum he plays with the same infuriating (and scummy) play style.  It's great when he's scum because people just ignore him saying: that's just Org.

I don't particularly want to fall into that trap.

Org's playing his infuriating (and scummy) play style right now, but you're going out of your way to say he's town.

I guess your opinions change when your scum buddy's life is on the line, eh?

[JanusTwoface]

You then claim you're an Agent, all the while supporting Org's town claim. Who'd you investigate? You gotta come out with all the information if you're to be believed, which I don't right now. Especially since Kashyyk comes all the way from lurkerland to support your claim.

Um...  Really?

I'm not saying that I believe that Org is town.  I'm saying that I know Org is town.

Here it is, nice and simple:
- I'm an Agent.
- I investigated Org.
- Org is town.

[Pandarsenic]

Well now.

One, two, three.

That's all the Doppelgangers accounted for right there!

[Jim Groovester]

Here it is, nice and simple:
- I'm an Agent.
- I investigated Org.
- Org is town.

Well, excuse me if I didn't pick up on that the first time through.

Doesn't change anything, though. You're still scum fake claiming.

[JanusTwoface]

Well, excuse me if I didn't pick up on that the first time through.

Doesn't change anything, though. You're still scum fake claiming.

No.  I'm not.  Org's not.  Kashyyk could be to get you to lynch me mayhaps.