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[quinnr]

I agree with Siquo.

And really, being gone for 30 minutes isn't lurking. Just because you are super hyper-active and over-reacting to everything (scum!), does not mean we are lurking.

Now read this, it is in your language.:
AND REALLY, BEING GONE FOR 30 MINUTES ISN'T LURKING. JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE SUPER HYPER-ACTIVE AND OVER-REACTING TO EVERYTHING (SCUM!), DOES NOT MEAN WE ARE LURKING.

And now you admit that you are scum with a vote on yourself. Either that or you are not playing to win.

[Org]

I know I cant convince anyone anymore.

So, Day Shorten. Come on, if you think Im scum, no need to wait. Day SHorten.

[Pandarsenic]

You know, flipping the fuck out at everyone voting for you is a valid tactics for someone about to die. As scum it spreads WIFOM and as town it freaks the shit out of scum who vote for you.

[Org]

You know, flipping the fuck out at everyone voting for you is a valid tactics for someone about to die. As scum it spreads WIFOM and as town it freaks the shit out of scum who vote for you.

...Great. Now everyone is going to think Im scum even more.
WHY?






EVERYONE DAY SHORTEN. KILL ME SOONER.

[Rolan7]

I don't see any reason to shorten the day.

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Nice, I'm guilty of answering Org, and not answering siquo.  That's fair?
Your vote's already on me Siquo, no need to vote a second time.

I needed to get your attention.

Your accusation is absurd. 

Speaking of things bad for town, siquo, stop discussing your post with HFS and post something.

You only started posting after this.  Org, too, has constantly pointed out your lurkiness.

I only saw the entire thread after that. Right now my RL schedule allows me about two updates per day, and keep in mind we might be in different timezones.

Haha, you even accused Org of being too active!  How do you reconcile that with calling me lurky now?

Easy, everything out of the ordinary is... strange enough to investigate. Too much and too little are weird. Too average is weird, too, before you get any ideas.

I only see one good reason you would continue to press such an absurd attack. 

I see a different one, and you know it.

Thank you.  I'm still suspicious of you, but you responded very reasonably to my questions.

To all: I know, I know, the "experienced players" are saying that's a bad thing. But they have not been paying attention. BM7 had several no-lynches, including Day 1, and was (let me emphasize) the first BM where town won.
Even the IC's were astounded. Which led me to two conclusions: 1. Experienced player means Jack Shit. 2. Any "experienced player" who has been paying attention to BM7 knows that a Day1 No-lynch can be a good thing for town. Being overly against it, is, as of now in my book very suspicious. Suspicious enough to warrant a lynch, even.

I didn't know that about BM7, BM8 was my first.  It's encouraging to hear.  While I have the utmost respect for our more experienced players, I'm becoming more and more convinced that their advice is... not always helpful.

[Pandarsenic]

You know, flipping the fuck out at everyone voting for you is a valid tactics for someone about to die. As scum it spreads WIFOM and as town it freaks the shit out of scum who vote for you.

...Great. Now everyone is going to think Im scum even more.
WHY?






EVERYONE DAY SHORTEN. KILL ME SOONER.

I made no statement of your alignment. I simply stated for general benefit that flipping out at people voting for you near your death is a null-tell.

[Org]

Okay. It doesnt matter, Pandar.
I am scum. Sir Bayer is my scum partner. Rolan7 IS NOT SCUM.

[Vector]

To all: I know, I know, the "experienced players" are saying that's a bad thing. But they have not been paying attention. BM7 had several no-lynches, including Day 1, and was (let me emphasize) the first BM where town won.
Even the IC's were astounded. Which led me to two conclusions: 1. Experienced player means Jack Shit. 2. Any "experienced player" who has been paying attention to BM7 knows that a Day1 No-lynch can be a good thing for town. Being overly against it, is, as of now in my book very suspicious. Suspicious enough to warrant a lynch, even.

I didn't know that about BM7, BM8 was my first.  It's encouraging to hear.  While I have the utmost respect for our more experienced players, I'm becoming more and more convinced that their advice is... not always helpful.

Mostly, it's that you can't apply any piece of advice as a blanket.  They got lucky.  They had a cop and Siquo tunneled on scum D1.  So if you've got a cop and you know it, but the scumteam doesn't--AND the scumteam doesn't have a godfather--then yeah, no-lynching's the right answer, because it pretty much wins you the game.

Experienced player means that you know something about the many ways a scumteam can screw you over, and you can win even without your power roles holding your hand and getting lucky.  Experienced player means knowing something about the many ways power-heavy town can screw you over, and you can win even if you're in 3P lylo against two confirmed townies.

The only town win BM players have actually earned was in BM8.

If that still means jack shit to you... then well, that's too bad.  Please note that the town IC doesn't know who the scumteam is, and the scum IC doesn't know anything about the existence of town's power roles.  They're just like you, except for the part where they can't ask questions or feel out the situation on their own.  You can't expect them to always have the perfect answers in such moments.

[dakarian]

Consider the fact that many of us 'experienced' have been around for a year.  During that time we 'experienced' have literally gone for months without a single town win except in games where the town had an overpowering advantage.

The streak of pure scum wins ended rather recently with BM7 and NM. 


So yes, DO take out advice with a grain of salt. 

A question though: what would be gained with a no lynch that wouldn't be gained by just extending the day instead?  You have the full right to extend the day to keep the discussion going.  Furthermore, in such day extensions, you maintain the 3 mislynches you have. 


Though it looks like you won't need a day extension today.

[JaaSwb]

Unvote (SirBayer).

Okay. It doesnt matter, Pandar.
I am scum. Sir Bayer is my scum partner. Rolan7 IS NOT SCUM.

Great, I spend 50 minutes on a giant wall of text and then you claim scum 

Let's test that claim. Org.

Also, if you are indeed scum, expect to be immediately bussed if you ever find yourself on a scumteam with me. If not, I guess this day makes a great case for policy lynches. I can not see how this kind of conduct benefits anyone, ever, in a game with no jester.

[Org]

Well. Let me say this. I cant convince stubborn town to do anything. I posted, and destroyed your reasons, but you wont change. GET IT OVER WITH. JUST END THE DAY.

[Org]

Okay, Im not actually scum.

BUT JUST END THE DAY

[quinnr]

Okay, Im not actually scum.

BUT JUST END THE DAY

............fail.

[Org]

Okay, Im not actually scum.

BUT JUST END THE DAY

............fail.

Hehehe
I want the day to end.

[dakarian]

I'd like to also STRESS Vector's comment about me not having a deep feel of this game.  I am reading the game and seeing what's being said and I do have opinions, but you guys have the best feel about what's going on, especially since I cant' actually pressure anyone.

And I don't even know the power roles, nevermind the scum .


Btw, Siquo, I want you to read this part the most:

The hunt for scum is ALL.  If you do believe you can hunt them down by no lynches then go ahead.  If you believe you can catch them best by pushing the ICs out of the way then DAMN IT PUSH!  When I say "do anything and everything to hunt scum" I don't mean "but do what I say."  I do mean "even if it means saying F you to Dakarian."

..though if you do and you lose, Litia will eat you...alive.