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Re: Beginner's Mafia IX, Day Three: Broken balance
« Reply #510 on: March 10, 2010, 04:54:03 pm »

Got more time == more text.

Quinnr: yes, you should be attacking me for attacking you! And certainly don't disagree with webadict! Posting more would be good, but defending me makes you even scummier than I already thought you were. I've been busy a while, but you'll notice I've had a bit more time the last 24 hours. You still haven't. And still no more than 1 or two lines PER POST. What are you afraid of?

Webadict, how did you get from "quinnr is town" to "I think you're scummy" in such a short time? By your logic, I should now be voting for you. However, I still think you're deluded, more than malicious, but just barely. I am town. Two others are not. You might be one of them. Throwing the Big Book Of Mafiascum at every whim doesn't make for better arguments, either. Scum could do that, too. What makes you so town, then?

Glyph, I said I had little time. I merely tried to cooperate with any requests. Also, you've been strangely absent, even when you're here. Are you even playing the same game as us? Your "attacks" and questions are indeed laughable, and in no way have you been able to get anything out of anyone. And come on, the only thing you have to say to me is Really?

Solifuge, are you really saying "I'm just voting for X because Y did"? That is EXACTLY what your predecessor was doing. The Entire Game.
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but I'll vote Boat if a lynch wont float.
Can I translate that to "I'll bandwagon with anyone"? If so, why would you? And if not, what did you mean by that?
I've noticed you getting behind webadict yelling "yeah, you go girl". What... What is that? Standing behind the biggest loudmouth, then pointing in the same direction? The Entire Game? What kind of strategy are you pulling here?
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Re: Beginner's Mafia IX, Day Three: Broken balance
« Reply #511 on: March 10, 2010, 05:09:59 pm »

To be terribly frank, and I no disrespect to the game or its players/host, but the one which requires a minimum of effort on my part. I wasn't expecting any activity but Webadict and myself for some time, and accordingly had/have limited the energy I put into this.

I still haven't read through this thing either. Say what you will, it is merely a product of laziness. Because my empathy reads from one day happen to match up with the arguments posed by Webadict does not mean I'm doing a cheerleader routine for him. Even as such, his analysis are generally trustworthy, as long as there is reason to suspect he is town. I believe the unrefuted Doctor claim counts as "reason to suspect he is town."
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Re: Beginner's Mafia IX, Day Three: Broken balance
« Reply #512 on: March 10, 2010, 05:11:26 pm »

P.S. The "Boat Vote" thing was in reference to voting to call a premature end to the game if there is little to no activity from players necessary to complete it. Simmer down, tiger.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia IX, Day Three: Broken balance
« Reply #513 on: March 10, 2010, 05:17:58 pm »

(T-T-T-Triple Post!)

My current suspicion is that you're attempting to bus Quinnr, who happens to be scum. In the event that you are lynched and role-flip, you're hoping that the one whom you were most vocally suspicious of gets a reprieve.

That or you're knowledgable of that tactic, and hoping that others come to that conclusion, and thereby save your actual scumbuddy from suspicion.

P.P.S. I don't have the ability to telepathically pick up on JaaSwb's habits, FYI. Calling suspicion on the fact that we happen to have found the same person suspicious is pretty ricockulous, and might be a good sign that there are external influences, IE Scumtells, that we mutually picked up on.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia IX, Day Three: Broken balance
« Reply #514 on: March 10, 2010, 05:46:00 pm »

My current suspicion is that you're attempting to bus Quinnr, who happens to be scum. In the event that you are lynched and role-flip, you're hoping that the one whom you were most vocally suspicious of gets a reprieve.

That or you're knowledgable of that tactic, and hoping that others come to that conclusion, and thereby save your actual scumbuddy from suspicion.
Not really. Quinnr has been posting the least of all. I got a major gut feeling about him. He promises to post more repeatedly, but doesn't. Why would he, if the biggest loudmouth proclaims him to be town? He's safe and snug, and has no reason to come out. That is why I voted him. And he still won't come out.

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P.P.S. I don't have the ability to telepathically pick up on JaaSwb's habits, FYI. Calling suspicion on the fact that we happen to have found the same person suspicious is pretty ricockulous, and might be a good sign that there are external influences, IE Scumtells, that we mutually picked up on.
External influences, indeed. Like a scumchat. Which is just as, if not more likely.

webadict's doctorclaim is still... kinda unsure. There does not need to be a doctor. It is a risky thing to claim though, as scum, but if it works, it works well. But why take that risk when you're this far already? Is that in the BigMafiaScumBook?

IC question: Roleclaiming is unknown territory for me. How does that work? How is this one?
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Re: Beginner's Mafia IX, Day Three: Broken balance
« Reply #515 on: March 10, 2010, 05:50:14 pm »

Vote count:

Siquo [2] - Webadict, Solifuge

Not voting: Quinnr, Siquo, GlyphGryph

(I wiped the votes after we got replacements.  If you wanna vote for someone, then vote).



Day ends at midnight, though I may not end up doing any sort of writeup until Friday (thank you, triple-homework-set-bonanza :D).

As such, only two votes are required to extend.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia IX, Day Three: Broken balance
« Reply #516 on: March 10, 2010, 05:57:29 pm »

My current suspicion is that you're attempting to bus Quinnr, who happens to be scum. In the event that you are lynched and role-flip, you're hoping that the one whom you were most vocally suspicious of gets a reprieve.

That or you're knowledgable of that tactic, and hoping that others come to that conclusion, and thereby save your actual scumbuddy from suspicion.
Not really. Quinnr has been posting the least of all. I got a major gut feeling about him. He promises to post more repeatedly, but doesn't. Why would he, if the biggest loudmouth proclaims him to be town? He's safe and snug, and has no reason to come out. That is why I voted him. And he still won't come out.

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P.P.S. I don't have the ability to telepathically pick up on JaaSwb's habits, FYI. Calling suspicion on the fact that we happen to have found the same person suspicious is pretty ricockulous, and might be a good sign that there are external influences, IE Scumtells, that we mutually picked up on.
External influences, indeed. Like a scumchat. Which is just as, if not more likely.

webadict's doctorclaim is still... kinda unsure. There does not need to be a doctor. It is a risky thing to claim though, as scum, but if it works, it works well. But why take that risk when you're this far already? Is that in the BigMafiaScumBook?

IC question: Roleclaiming is unknown territory for me. How does that work? How is this one?
Let's put it this way: You're about to be lynched, but you're not nervous at all.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia IX, Day Three: Broken balance
« Reply #517 on: March 10, 2010, 06:01:44 pm »

It's 5 to midnight here, and time to sleep. Just now I see that the day is almost over, and I'm about to be lynched. That would be bad, because town would lose. Getting nervous because I'm about to be lynched and lose tha game didn't ever help anyone. The only thing I can do now is post my final findings, since I'm off after this.


Dropping it all. Yes, I'm still hunting and yes, I've no real eveidence. I've been really wrong yesterday, and didn't want to make the same mistake again.

Quinnr's still refusing to come out and play, even after voting for him, and pressuring him. Him being defended by others didn't really help at all, but does say something about the defenders.

I believe webadict is the doctor, for now. This roleclaim really threw me, I'm not sure how to read that. Defending quinnr like that, and then calling him scummy, is awkward...
Quinnr is probably kinda town but goddamn annoyingly not active. Even when i tried pressure. Why?!
That leaves Solifuge and Glyph, of whom Solifuge has telled me the most.


Vote goes to Solifuge.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia IX, Day Three: Broken balance
« Reply #518 on: March 10, 2010, 06:05:21 pm »



Wow, FIVE posts while I was writing. Intense! I'll post this one as is and make a new response post afterwards.

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Glyph, I said I had little time. I merely tried to cooperate with any requests. Also, you've been strangely absent, even when you're here. Are you even playing the same game as us? Your "attacks" and questions are indeed laughable, and in no way have you been able to get anything out of anyone. And come on, the only thing you have to say to me is Really?

"Try to cooperate with requests", huh? Just trying to do what people ask and otherwise stay out of the way? :coughscumcough:
And what... you're argument doesn't make any sense! I've been "strangely absent?" Maybe I haven't been playing the same game, then! Well, not the same game you're playing anyways. (you can read into that one what you want)

So, I'm gonna say it again. Really? Is that REALLY all you've got?

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Even as such, his analysis are generally trustworthy, as long as there is reason to suspect he is town. I believe the unrefuted Doctor claim counts as "reason to suspect he is town."

Think of it like this - only me and Siquo hadn't roleclaimed (from what I remember) when he claimed doctor. The chance of either of us being doctor was low. Even if he DID claim doctor, if someone else counter-claimed he's got enough experience at this game he probably could have steamrolled them, using the claim as a reason to lynch them and thus get a quick win.
A claim of a "maybe" townie roll means something, sure, but it isn't by any stretch a guarantee he's town - and I may have done a poor job of it, but I think getting something from him beyond that claim was important.

And even if you aren't dedicating your full to this game, empathy reads aren't what you should be doing at this point.

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I still haven't read through this thing either
Do it then - stop buddying webadict and riding on his coat tails and make some real arguments of your own. Maybe I have been hunting terribly like both of you claim - but at least I've been trying.

Analysis right now:
Since there's no hammer, at least one of Webadict/Solifuge/Siquo is scum.

I'm going to have think about this a bit more, though.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia IX, Day Three: Broken balance
« Reply #519 on: March 10, 2010, 06:14:24 pm »

Siquo:
I really don't like you're flipping on Quinnr's scumminess - Solifuge, god bless his scummy looking soul, actually made a decent a point. Why attack quinnr so hard and then not vote him? Perhaps because you don't actually want him lynched?

And I was very tempted to vote for solifuge as well... which would have given your scumbuddy the perfect opportunity to hammer.

And Siquo, why would you even suspect me at this point? Think for a second - if you were town, and I was scum, YOU. WOULD. BE. DEAD.

So, you think solifuge is scum - who do think is the second?
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Re: Beginner's Mafia IX, Day Three: Broken balance
« Reply #520 on: March 10, 2010, 06:17:50 pm »

It's 5 to midnight here, and time to sleep. Just now I see that the day is almost over, and I'm about to be lynched. That would be bad, because town would lose. Getting nervous because I'm about to be lynched and lose tha game didn't ever help anyone. The only thing I can do now is post my final findings, since I'm off after this.


Dropping it all. Yes, I'm still hunting and yes, I've no real eveidence. I've been really wrong yesterday, and didn't want to make the same mistake again.

Quinnr's still refusing to come out and play, even after voting for him, and pressuring him. Him being defended by others didn't really help at all, but does say something about the defenders.

I believe webadict is the doctor, for now. This roleclaim really threw me, I'm not sure how to read that. Defending quinnr like that, and then calling him scummy, is awkward...
Quinnr is probably kinda town but goddamn annoyingly not active. Even when i tried pressure. Why?!
That leaves Solifuge and Glyph, of whom Solifuge has telled me the most.


Vote goes to Solifuge.
... That's a big jump. I thought you thought quinnr was scum?

Is it because his vote is the one it depends on? :P

Siquo:
I really don't like you're flipping on Quinnr's scumminess - Solifuge, god bless his scummy looking soul, actually made a decent a point. Why attack quinnr so hard and then not vote him? Perhaps because you don't actually want him lynched?

And I was very tempted to vote for solifuge as well... which would have given your scumbuddy the perfect opportunity to hammer.

And Siquo, why would you even suspect me at this point? Think for a second - if you were town, and I was scum, YOU. WOULD. BE. DEAD.

So, you think solifuge is scum - who do think is the second?
He thinks it's you. I do too, since his last words seem to try to produce some sort of WIFOM. But, Solifuge can try and figure it out tomorrow.

I leave it to you, good sir! Please don't be scum!
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Re: Beginner's Mafia IX, Day Three: Broken balance
« Reply #521 on: March 10, 2010, 06:28:11 pm »

One last time, I was trying to get quinnr out of inactiveness. Thanks but no thanks for the backup.  :P
I had decided this game not to be popular towny, and instead of worrying about how I look, just go with my suspicions and hunts, in contrast to my last game.

And speaking of WIFOM:
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That or you're knowledgable of that tactic, and hoping that others come to that conclusion, and thereby save your actual scumbuddy from suspicion.
That. What?

And with those words, the priest lay on his bed. An old man was he, and his bones creaked as much as the bed did. At least he had a bed, the poor souls in the cold empty space of the church had less comfort.

Fully knowing this night might be his last, he spoke one last prayer before going to sleep. He prayed for wisdom in his fellow men, he prayed for them to survive, he prayed for forgiveness for the evil men, for they know not what they do. He silently blessed everyone, and closed his eyes...
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Re: Beginner's Mafia IX, Day Three: Broken balance
« Reply #522 on: March 10, 2010, 06:31:53 pm »

I was protecting Siquo because I don't think he is scum. He has been actively searching for scum the whole game (although we still haven't voted out a single scum, that is probably besides the point).

Even if he was attacking me, that doesn't make him scum.

However, him attacking me just to get me out of inactiveness would be considered semi-scummy in my book.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia IX, Day Three: Broken balance
« Reply #523 on: March 10, 2010, 06:52:26 pm »

It's alive!  It's aliiiiiiiive!

Mod is very happy :3  There will be lots of flavor once I've escaped from Problem Set Hell.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia IX, Day Three: Broken balance
« Reply #524 on: March 10, 2010, 06:53:56 pm »

I was protecting Siquo because I don't think he is scum. He has been actively searching for scum the whole game (although we still haven't voted out a single scum, that is probably besides the point).

Even if he was attacking me, that doesn't make him scum.

However, him attacking me just to get me out of inactiveness would be considered semi-scummy in my book.
Okay, now you're sounding legitimately scummy. It's like you don't care!

Solifuge, feel free to question the crap out of him tomorrow. Especially if Siquo comes up non-Godfather.

I really don't like WIFOMing myself, but quinnr certainly loves it.

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