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[RedWarrior0]

Joker, if you're less experienced at it then me... well... 

Also: As Vector said, you were buddying. Basically, when a decent argument came along, you hopped right on. Bandwagon/buddying, it's just that the latter focuses on another person. It shows that you look(ed) at an easy lynch (it seems like Bayer's going to be lynched at this point) and hopped on, basically using the argument of "What he said." I'll give you a big juicy Finger of Suspicion for it, though I still feel Bayer is scum. If he isn't, you're next on my list. The two of you have both been acting scummy.

@Kash: lurkerhunting is not a bad thing. It attacks a (sometimes) scumtell. But (how I feel anyway), it's a "secondary offense" type of deal: not enough to fully incriminate you, but another thing against you when that does happen. As you said, something solid is a major part.

@dak (and everyone else later on, as I kinda went off on a tangent): For the buddying, here's a worse scenario: the town buddies up to the scum rather than the other way around. If the buddier is lynched, the town knows they can take his words with more than a grain of salt and will be more likely to trust him. More for the rest of the town: You can trust a dead townie more than a living one, but a dead townie does two things. First, it puts you closer to losing. Second, not accounting for the possibility of human fallability in his/her statements. This is why, if you feel you're going to be lynched or NK'd, I would say you should do as much as you can to get a deep analysis on other players: if you die, it can be useful to town. It can (I'm paraphrasing the MafiaScum wiki right now) also prevent a night kill: Scum will be less likely to kill you, as anything you uncovered is now known to be made genuinely. This means that a NK on you could possibly reveal some of the mafia.

That last paragraph is my advice. I know I'm playing, but the whole of this game is to provide a learning experience, so I'd like to say what I know about it.

[Eduren]

I really don't believe Bayer is scum. From what I've seen this is typical Bayer.

[Org]

Sticking with SirBayer because:

I know the kid outside of the game and I know that he doesn't get all frantic and screechy unless he's bothered by something - in this case, the fact that he's scum. He also knows that I would accuse him right away, so he attacked me before I could attack him in an attempt to throw blame at me before I can do the same to him. BayBay undoubtedly knows how easy it would be to convince people that he's scum (I've read the last couple games he's been in), so he's all panicked.

Oh.
Heheheh.
Hehe.
He.
Ha.


Hehehe.
He.

Okay, not that is over with...this is dumb. Very. Uhm... RL stuff?
Really?
That is a weak reason.
Really weak.
Joker

REALLY DAK?
REALLY?

[SirBayer]

Wait, so you just admitted to lurking, Eduren?

What is this I don't even

You're kidding, right? Please tell me you're kidding.

Eduren for confessing to lurking, which is... uh. Special.

What? How is that admitting? When I said lurker-vote I was talking about Your Reason For Voting Me.

I disagree with your lurker assessment wholeheartedly. You only gave me 12 hours(at night even!) before you went "Where's Eduren lol??" Please tell me how I was lurking.

...okay, so I missed that post 12 hours before that other one. I don't... know how that happened. Anyhow.

My point stands that you ignored my push when you first came back.

@Redwarrior: Meh. I'm scumhunting, not trying to get someone killed. If I wanted 'em dead, yes, I'd have an argument, but I'm scumhunting, so I don't. That's that.

SirBayer is scum.

2. You push That vote without giving much time to respond, as eduren kindly pointed out.

3. Other stuff from the first voting period. You're giving off scum-vibes to me.

This adds onto what I was saying, about how he's being both uncharacteristically pushy and almost frantic (so it seems to me). I'm also feeling his scumminess, though I'm less experienced than Red here at detecting it. SirBayer has my vote again.

Ahahaha wow Joe. That's... uh, that's bandwagoning. Uhm.

Anyway - longer post forthcoming, too busy right now.

[Org]

And, Dak, I have been on Joker for the last two pages or so.
That is what I meant.
Sorry if I wasn't clear.

[dakarian]

From the OP:

After 24 hours, the votes will be wiped and you MUST vote again.

Yesterday:

All votes wiped.  No one is voting for anyone.

If you're after the same person, you need to vote again each day for that person along with your reason.  It's part of your attendance.

For the record, if your reason really is EXACTLY the same as before, you can quote/link the reason, though your vote needs to be in the normal part of the post (I'll go mad if I have to start counting votes put into quoted text!).

For now, Org, I'll take your post as Vote + reason.  Just remember that the vote is wiped every day and, thus, you need to revote.


Day ending in 15 minutes.

[RedWarrior0]

Is it too late to ask for an extension?

[dakarian]

My deadlines are soft.  So long as you rpost comes BEFORE my end of day one it counts.

2nd Extension heard (first was Eduren a while back).  Deadline pushed back 2 hours.  1 more extension required to extend day to Saturday (unless Red wanted a Monday extension then 1 more till extending to monday).

Current Vote Count
Jokerman-EXE[2]: Eduren (Going for the easy lynch, convoluted accusations), Org (poor reason to attack SirBayer)

Eduren[1]: SirBayer (confessing to lurking)

SirBayer[3]: RedWarrior0 (lurkerhunting, last minute push, ext.), Jokerman-EXE (pushy and almost frantic), Kashyyk (lack of content),

Kashyyk[1]: Archangel (active lurking)

Shades[1]: Rysith (nervous/defensive/ext.)

Org[0]:
RedWarrior0[0]:
Archangel[0]:
Rysith[0]:
GlyphGryph[0]:

Not Voting: GlyphGryph, Shades

Conditional prod to Glyph and Shades.  They have 6 hours to vote or, if the day ends, perform their night actions.

[RedWarrior0]

Alright. I looked back at the first two 24-hour periods, and I'm sort of half decided between Bayer and Joker. I feel that one of them is scum, but the earlier stuff puts more suspicion on Joker than there was. I'll unvote for now, as my review of the early day makes me a little more suspicious of Joker.

[Vector]

So, as far as doing a quick scan goes, I usually start by writing out a list of players and thinking about my impressions for each one.  I can typically sort them into a few categories based on recent memory: scum, probably scum, dunno, probably town, and town.  Then I ignore everything except the "dunno" and "probably scum."  After that, I do a quick run-through, looking over the posts for the people I haven't gotten clear reads on.  This gets down to basic scumtells that are easy to see: meta, buddying, lurking, passiveness, and so on.  The purpose is to narrow down your view, not to catch everything--so stick to basics.

When someone in particular stands out to me, I run up a wall of text on him, commenting on everything that seemed unusual to me during the scan.  Then I try to kick some scumtells out.  This is the real part of the scan: see how they react to everything I could dig up, and then consider that behavior the true result of my look-through.

I don't know if that's what you were looking for, but it helps me and tends to save a lot of time here and there.

[GlyphGryph]

I don't want to see a no-lynch, and of the two I am more suspicious of SirBayer.

If I get more time before the end of day, that might change, but I'm not exactly sure when the current deadline is and I'm opposed to extensions unless I have some particular reason to extend. As it is, SirBayer looks damned scummy - my gut doesn't say he's scum, but it doesn't say he's town either, so I'm gonna have to go off what I see. The attitude is just very... panicky, very uncontrolled.

Still, Shades and Rysith, I'm pretty sure one of you will prove to be scum as well..

[webadict]

Alright. I looked back at the first two 24-hour periods, and I'm sort of half decided between Bayer and Joker. I feel that one of them is scum, but the earlier stuff puts more suspicion on Joker than there was. I'll unvote for now, as my review of the early day makes me a little more suspicious of Joker.

Unvoting now gives a tie that leads to a No Lynch. It's always better to lynch.

[Eduren]

I don't want to see a no-lynch, and of the two I am more suspicious of SirBayer.

If I get more time before the end of day, that might change, but I'm not exactly sure when the current deadline is and I'm opposed to extensions unless I have some particular reason to extend. As it is, SirBayer looks damned scummy - my gut doesn't say he's scum, but it doesn't say he's town either, so I'm gonna have to go off what I see. The attitude is just very... panicky, very uncontrolled.

You aren't sure if Bayer is scum? Then you definitely have a reason to extend!

[dakarian]

1 hour remaining:

quicky vote count:

Jokerman-EXE[2]: Eduren (Going for the easy lynch, convoluted accusations), Org (poor reason to attack SirBayer)

Eduren[1]: SirBayer (confessing to lurking)

SirBayer[3]: Jokerman-EXE (pushy and almost frantic), Kashyyk (lack of content), GlyphGryph (panicky, uncontrolled)

Kashyyk[1]: Archangel (active lurking)

Shades[1]: Rysith (nervous/defensive/ext.)

[SirBayer]

Well, okay, let's Extend.

Wait a second! Ooh, here comes my favorite argument!

I still feel Bayer is scum. If he isn't, you're next on my list. The two of you have both been acting scummy.

I love to slam people for this.

RedWarrior, if you think I'm scum, you'd be voting me. For being scum. But no, you're going to play the soft-ball route. Because as scum, you can't be spotted actually trying to KILL someone, oh the humanity.

Unvote Eduren, I'll prod you later. I've got juicier targets.

Redwarrior, you are certainly scum.

And watch, when I put this down, he'll vote for me!